2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Heavy Jack]

Toffoli + Granlund would be amazing

[jesters91]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Bring me toffoli.

You'd be happy if the Flames signed him at 5+ for 4 years (or more)? That sounds like a Brower/Neal scenario just waiting to happen.

Crap, I'm now one of those who brings up Brower and Neal in UFA discussion threads.

[getoverit]

We didn’t exit the last 2 years of playoffs due to goal tending so no this does not move the yard stick. We need the right changes in top 6 that can show up when it matters the most. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity!

[Nelson]

The Flames do not have money to sign a UFA. Barring a trade, the Flames are done. I guess they could sign a UFA and then trade someone later, but that trade would likely be brutal because everyone would know the Flames need to make a trade.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Nelson

The Flames do not have money to sign a UFA. Barring a trade, the Flames are done. I guess they could sign a UFA and then trade someone later, but that trade would likely be brutal because everyone would know the Flames need to make a trade.

Yes we have heard this story before. Any kind of cap dump now is going to cost you big time.

[JTech780]

Toffoli will turn into another James Neal, please stay Treliving, the fit is terrible.

Hoffman makes more sense, but I wouldn't pay him what he is going to get.

Haula and Leivo is the direction I would go.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I am comfortable going into the season with the lineup as is. I am sure there will be guys battling for spots on the 4th line this year as well (Pelletier will make a push, but will probably start in the AHL - unless the Flames keep him in juniors again). Flames have a very reliable starter that is capable of stealing more games than he loses, so that's good. I don't necessarily think goaltending has been a weakness this past season, but it is most certainly a strength this upcoming season.


I am actually more interested to see what changes Ward implements. There HAS to be a better way to be defensively responsible as well as be more dangerous offensively, especially off the rush. If Ward can implement a sound system that utilizes this roster's strengths, then I think this team can go far.


Yes, Gaudreau and Monahan need to be better, but at the very least they were defensively very sound during the playoffs - that's improvement and commitment in my eyes. I don't think they aren't good enough to win with - I think they are. I was hoping for upgrades on the roster - another scoring forward would be great.. but maybe an upgrade on goaltending plus another year where guys like Mangiapane, Bennett and Dube take another step forward is all that is needed.


I am ok with this. Anything else is gravy.

[Roof-Daddy]

I dont want any of the other big name UFA wingers.

Those are the ones that'll be a much bigger risk to turn into the next Neal or Brouwer IMO.

Just make some shrewd cheap depth signings and lets see how we look with what should be a real goalie for once.

And let guys like Mangiapane and Dube fly dammit.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yes we have heard this story before. Any kind of cap dump now is going to cost you big time.

I don’t mean to be negative. I actually like the idea of trusting Dube and Mangiapane and Bennett (at centre!!!) to take more responsibility. I think the best way to improve the forward core now is via internal improvement.

[Vinny01]

With Hall off the market time to stay away from UFA’s other than really cheap signings.

This could be the new team unless Treliving does a deal around Hanifin and/or Mangipane.

[MacFlame]

Originally Posted by getoverit

We didn’t exit the last 2 years of playoffs due to goal tending so no this does not move the yard stick. We need the right changes in top 6 that can show up when it matters the most. !

Yup, this has been my observation too. I don't see this as being Monahan's "fault" or Gaudreau's "fault" either. Its the combination of the two.

Gaudreau could be more effective in my opinion if the flames had another centreman that could create space for him. Monahan could be a more effective centre if he played with a winger that could create space for him. But together? It's just not working.

Teams have figured out how to limit the chances off the Flames rush, which is where Monahan and Gaudreau have been the most effective historically. If you're going to play dump and chase with Monaghan and Gaudreau, you might as well just pass the puck to other team.

In my opinion, one of them needs to be traded or they need to be split up in a scenario where another top centre or top line winger comes in. Hasn't happened yet..hopefully it gets addressed soon.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I still think that for Gaudreau to be effective, he has to play at pace. He was lethal as the guy carrying the puck in on the rush, and finding trailers - Wideman fed off of that nicely, for example. The 5-man unit kind of takes away some of Gaudrea's options, and that line just isn't a strong chip-and-chase line, especially trying to generate offence off the cycle.


If Ward can just figure out a way to make that line to play a bit more off the rush, I bet you see a nice rebound by all three of them.

[Enoch Root]

Monahan and Gaudreau have to be better. Period. Or the Flames aren't going anywhere.

However, better goaltending makes a HUGE difference. Not only do you have a chance to win every game, but team confidence grows and with it, team play.

The Flames are a better team now than they were before signing Markstrom. That is just not even debatable.

[tkflames]

Of what's left in FA...I would play it safe. Short term, low dollar deal for a Perry or Granlund etc. If the team performs use the currency we have at the deadline. If there is a real hockey deal (Gaudreau for Konecny+) do it. Else make the deal at the draft next year before Gaudreau's control kicks in.

[dammage79]

Probably depends on how the Flames deal with Mangiapanes situation but you could move Ryan and Sign a multi positional player like Granlund. Thats an upgrade. I do think the Flames really want another RHS though. But thats gonna have to come via trade.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by getoverit

We didn’t exit the last 2 years of playoffs due to goal tending so no this does not move the yard stick. We need the right changes in top 6 that can show up when it matters the most. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity!

Goaltending cost the Flames game six

Not saying I wouldn't upgrade the top 6

[djsFlames]

I don't care which guy they sign if its for 3 years or less.

I just want nothing to do with any more 4-6 year contracts.

Its not a brouwer/neal contract if it's short term.

[jesters91]

Johnny Hockey gets you to the playoffs...which is important. Unfortunately, he hasn't shown that you can win in the playoffs with his style (yet).

With a true #1, an improved top 4 on the back-end and whatever other changes take place between now and then that hopefully changes.

[Poe969]

Tofolli, dandonov, vantanen, Haula, perry...

Still some guys who would be a good addition to this team

[oldschoolcalgary]

really, with the top tier (>5million)
Tofolli
Dadanov
Hoffman

under 5m
Duclair lw
Kahun lw/c
Haula c/lw