2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by New Era

A falacy that has little support to the claim. If Backlund was an elite shutdown man we wouldn't have our heads caved in by the opposition's top line game-after-game. Backlund is a middling second to third line center and is overpaid for what he provides. If we can move him and get out from underneath his cap hit, we would be wise to do so.

The argument will be made that Backlund is slightly overpaid, and that is true. On its own, Backlund is slightly overpaid. But in the context of the team, there are too many salaries that add up to being overpaid and for this team to attract the top end talent it needs we need to dump those salaries. Milan Lucic's salary is a massive anchor, dragging this team down when it needs more air to breathe. Unfortunately that contract is immovable. Which means you have to start looking elsewhere. Backlund and Ryan are the next in the crosshairs because they are both overpaid for the roles they are cast into or the value they provide. So they are the ones that have to go. If there was a way to rid ourselves of Lucic, then things would be different and Backlund would be a salary you could live with.

Our center depth is horrid and you want to trade Backlund? Mony can’t drive play , and Bennett is not a sure thing for 3rd line center. He was great in playoffs, but is he going to revert back to regular season Bennett? Yes we should trade Ryan to free up cap space if needed.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Well, you can feel warm and fuzzy about Backlund as a Flames fan all you want and think he has a lot of value.

Truth is, players like him (e.g. Tyler Johnson) are getting waived and clearing. Is that set in stone for Backlund? no. However, he doesn't have the value some seem to believe on here imo.

Johnson cleared waivers, probably because they all know the bind Tampa is in. Tampa will be forced to buy him out, then some team will get him for a fraction of the cost.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Johnson cleared waivers, probably because they all know the bind Tampa is in. Tampa will be forced to buy him out, then some team will get him for a fraction of the cost.

Tampa can’t buy him out this year.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Well, you can feel warm and fuzzy about Backlund as a Flames fan all you want and think he has a lot of value.

Truth is, players like him (e.g. Tyler Johnson) are getting waived and clearing. Is that set in stone for Backlund? no. However, he doesn't have the value some seem to believe on here imo.

2nd line C's are much more coveted than 2nd line wingers.

He has value, no question about it. It just has to be enough for BT to send him elsewhere and somewhere MB will agree to go to.

[Heavy Jack]

Tampa is going to be forced to include a pick or prospect or maybe even additional roster player along with Johnson; some sort of sweetener. Detroit is still my pick for where he ends up.

[sureLoss]

David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
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The Vancouver Canucks remain in the market for a top-four defenceman and are one of the teams that have expressed interest in Travis Hamonic. As they aren't the only team in that mix, they're also exploring multiple options.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Tampa can’t buy him out this year.

Yes they can....just need someone to go to arbitration or take someone to arbitration when the team window to do so opens.

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Well, you can feel warm and fuzzy about Backlund as a Flames fan all you want and think he has a lot of value.

Truth is, players like him (e.g. Tyler Johnson) are getting waived and clearing. Is that set in stone for Backlund? no. However, he doesn't have the value some seem to believe on here imo.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Awesome post. You are doing great

[Southside]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
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The Vancouver Canucks remain in the market for a top-four defenceman and are one of the teams that have expressed interest in Travis Hamonic. As they aren't the only team in that mix, they're also exploring multiple options.

I can't help but wonder if Hamonic opting out of bubble play really affects his value. I mean it looks like we're going to be living with COVID for some time yet.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
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The Vancouver Canucks remain in the market for a top-four defenceman and are one of the teams that have expressed interest in Travis Hamonic. As they aren't the only team in that mix, they're also exploring multiple options.

Hey look! A post on topic!

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by New Era

Backlund and Ryan are the next in the crosshairs because they are both overpaid for the roles they are cast into or the value they provide. So they are the ones that have to go.

Agree on Ryan, as Coach Ward has demoted him to the 4th line now. (he was a Peters guy)

Backlund is worth what he is paid and has been a very important mentor for the likes of Sam Bennett (rookie year) Andrew Mangiapane and Matthew Tkachuk.

Sorry but I think you guys are out to lunch on this one... Backlund on his way out, not even worth a 5th, waiver fodder, it is absurd to say the least.

[Heavy Jack]

People forget how Backlund was probably our most consistent and reliable forward during the playoffs; the guy bleeds Flames and doesn’t deserve to be this under valued by fans.

[btimbit]

I totally get that if such a move were to happen, it would be to shed the salary and in no way a knock against Backlund and what he brings. However, I don't think we have a guy that can effectively take that icetime, so I don't like it.

Start with Ryan to clear cap space, not the 2nd best C on the team

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I totally get that if such a move were to happen, it would be to shed the salary and in no way a knock against Backlund and what he brings. However, I don't think we have a guy that can effectively take that icetime, so I don't like it.

Start with Ryan to clear cap space, not the 2nd best C on the team

With Backlund’s 200 foot game, there’s a case to be made he’s our best Center. Criminally undervalued for what he brings to the table.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yes they can....just need someone to go to arbitration or take someone to arbitration when the team window to do so opens.

My bad, thought today was the 12th. Yes you are correct they have until 5pm eastern today to have some one apply for salary arbitration. I’m not sure anybody is eligible though?

[ForeverFlameFan]

I wonder if Gustafsson is starting to realize there isn’t really a market for his services at the price he is/was looking for.

[18YrOldSamBennett]

I would look at trying to bring in Vatanen before Gus.

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[MrMike]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
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The Vancouver Canucks remain in the market for a top-four defenceman and are one of the teams that have expressed interest in Travis Hamonic. As they aren't the only team in that mix, they're also exploring multiple options.

Travis Hamonic ≠ top-four defencemen.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by 18YrOldSamBennett

I would look at trying to bring in Vatanen before Gus.

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I’m hoping flames don’t spend anymore money on D. Flames need to concentrate on forwards.