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				Cap Friendly showing it as 1.5 M deal 
			
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Yup 1.5 + performance bonus I believe. Mostly games played then some for winning playoff rounds. So AAV of 2 mil but cap hit of 1.5
 
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Games Played Bonus: $250,000 (20, 25, 30, 35 & 40 gms) + Playoff Bonus: $125,000 if the club wins RD1 and he plays in at least 2 games; $125,000 if the club wins RD2 and he plays in at least 2 games
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			10-10-2020, 06:12 PM
			
			
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			This is hilarious. Smith with the 11.31 GAA and .783 sv% against Chicago, yet Edmonton is so desperate for goaltending they not only re-sign him but pay him a premium well over league minimum. Never change Oilers.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-10-2020, 06:22 PM
			
			
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			James Neals buddy. They can feed off eachother again.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-11-2020, 03:09 AM
			
			
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			What a great signing. Have to give Smith and in particular his agent credit; they know how to extort money from that organization and stick around.  
 
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			10-11-2020, 09:28 AM
			
			
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			I don't understand why they would go back to Smith with other options available.  He's 38 years old and won't likely be better next season.  In fact he will likely be worse.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-11-2020, 09:29 AM
			
			
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				Yup 1.5 + performance bonus I believe. Mostly games played then some for winning playoff rounds. So AAV of 2 mil but cap hit of 1.5 
 
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Games Played Bonus: $250,000 (20, 25, 30, 35 & 40 gms) + Playoff Bonus: $125,000 if the club wins RD1 and he plays in at least 2 games; $125,000 if the club wins RD2 and he plays in at least 2 games 
			
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So at the most it is a 1.75 million dollar deal.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-11-2020, 10:12 AM
			
			
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				I don't understand why they would go back to Smith with other options available.  He's 38 years old and won't likely be better next season.  In fact he will likely be worse. 
			
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Plus he’s a high risk for injury.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-11-2020, 10:21 AM
			
			
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			Honestly, I think a lot of goalies look at that team and their history. They knock off a couple years of earning potential, so unless you can get a long term that is the place to avoid if you want a show me contract or rebuild yourself. Smith is just taking free money at this point.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-11-2020, 10:27 AM
			
			
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				Honestly, I think a lot of goalies look at that team and their history. They knock off a couple years of earning potential, so unless you can get a long term that is the place to avoid if you want a show me contract or rebuild yourself. Smith is just taking free money at this point. 
			
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Pretty much. If you're a goalie you don't go to Edmonton unless it's an insane contract or it's your last option. If Smith doesn't re-sign, he probably retires. This is just free money, and he can do what he was going to do anyway, which is golf with Neal on road trips
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-11-2020, 10:32 AM
			
			
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				I don't understand why they would go back to Smith with other options available.  He's 38 years old and won't likely be better next season never kissed a girl.  In fact he will likely be worse. 
			
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Same pattern on the table, same clock on the wall 
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			10-11-2020, 10:52 AM
			
			
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				So at the most it is a 1.75 million dollar deal. 
			
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Almost certainly in the 1.6 to 1.7M range
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			10-11-2020, 11:41 AM
			
			
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				I don't understand why they would go back to Smith with other options available.  He's 38 years old and won't likely be better next season.  In fact he will likely be worse. 
			
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Who says that the Oilers had other available options?
 
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			10-11-2020, 11:45 AM
			
			
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				Who says that the Oilers had other available options? 
 
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Like Smith’s $1M value is $1.5-2M in Edmonton, every other goalie likely has an Edmonton premium.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-11-2020, 11:51 AM
			
			
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				Like Smith’s $1M value is $1.5-2M in Edmonton, every other goalie likely has an Edmonton premium. 
			
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Lies. They took the McDavid discount, every one of them!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-11-2020, 03:43 PM
			
			
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			What are some recent examples of players who rejuvenated their careers by signing in Edmonton? Seems like a flawed strategy.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-11-2020, 03:51 PM
			
			
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				What are some recent examples of players who rejuvenated their careers by signing in Edmonton? Seems like a flawed strategy. 
			
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Edmonton is the last stop before the AHL/Europe.
 
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			10-11-2020, 04:40 PM
			
			
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				What are some recent examples of players who rejuvenated their careers by signing in Edmonton? Seems like a flawed strategy. 
			
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Zack Kassian.
 
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			10-11-2020, 04:41 PM
			
			
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				Zack Kassian. 
 
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Not even accurate. Kassian's career would have rejuvenated no matter where he  went. His career made a come-back because he got sober.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-11-2020, 05:01 PM
			
			
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				Zack Kassian. 
 
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Remaining in Edmonton is not a rejuvenated career.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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