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Old 10-10-2020, 02:01 PM   #1641
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What did you sign mangi for? I like this very much.
$3 million AAV
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Old 10-10-2020, 02:02 PM   #1642
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$3 million AAV
At that cap hit, I hope we can sign him to a mid term contract (4 years or so)
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Old 10-10-2020, 02:04 PM   #1643
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At that cap hit, I hope we can sign him to a mid term contract (4 years or so)
Yeah, I did a 3 x 3
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Old 10-10-2020, 02:22 PM   #1644
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Yeah, I did a 3 x 3
Made him a UFA at 27, seems like great asset management.
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Old 10-10-2020, 02:33 PM   #1645
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Made him a UFA at 27, seems like great asset management.
Meh. If you get that many productive NHL years out of a 5th round pick you've already won in the long run as far as I'm concerned.

To get him to commit to 5 years will take a much bigger AAV in my opinion.

3 years is a long time. I'd take it and run myself.
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Old 10-10-2020, 02:37 PM   #1646
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Is there any way we can send Lucic and a couple of draft picks to Ottawa, Buffalo, New Jersey, or Detroit?

And then we sign Hall?

Please Hockey Gods, please! I won’t ask for anything ever again, I promise.
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Meh. If you get that many productive NHL years out of a 5th round pick you've already won in the long run as far as I'm concerned.

To get him to commit to 5 years will take a much bigger AAV in my opinion.

3 years is a long time. I'd take it and run myself.
That's why you sign him to 2 years, so he is a RFA and then you give him an additional 3-4 years based on actually having more than 1 full season in the NHL.
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That's why you sign him to 2 years, so he is a RFA and then you give him an additional 3-4 years based on actually having more than 1 full season in the NHL.
I thought two years took him to UFA as well, if not that's my mistake and you are 100% correct, a 2 year deal would be the optimum signing length for the Flames.
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I thought two years took him to UFA as well, if not that's my mistake and you are 100% correct, a 2 year deal would be the optimum signing length for the Flames.
Still an RFA in 2 years
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Is there any way we can send Lucic and a couple of draft picks to Ottawa, Buffalo, New Jersey, or Detroit?

And then we sign Hall?

Please Hockey Gods, please! I won’t ask for anything ever again, I promise.
Why would Lucic ok that?

Forget about Hall, he’s not coming here unless the Flames move Gaudreau and Ryan.
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I'd go up to 6x6, but would prefer 5x5.
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Your big name hunting has made you blind...Barrie never been worth 5x5...even in his prime. I hope the Oilers sign him because he is the defensive version of Neal.
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Is this intended to be a serious response?

Gus had one flukey season. Barrie has averaged 49 points a season over the past 6 years and defensively, Gus makes Barrie look like Scott Stevens.

Those two aren't even in the same damn conversation.
This conversation has not aged well for you Crown in the last 18 hours. Clearly if Barrie had to sign with the Oilers on a1 year 3.5M deal...every other GM agreed on this evaluation of Barrie...
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Its almost strange how they hone in on certain teams each offseason just a coincidence I'm sure. First was Arizona with Smith and Stone. Then Carolina with Lindholm, Hanifin and Ryan. Then Oilers with Rieder, Lucic and Talbot. Now the Canucks with Markstrom, Tanev, Domingue. I wouldnt even be surprised to see Toffoli sign if Hall goes elsewhere.
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Its almost strange how they hone in on certain teams each offseason just a coincidence I'm sure. First was Arizona with Smith and Stone. Then Carolina with Lindholm, Hanifin and Ryan. Then Oilers with Rieder, Lucic and Talbot. Now the Canucks with Markstrom, Tanev, Domingue. I wouldnt even be surprised to see Toffoli sign if Hall goes elsewhere.
Maybe Blaster is right and we only have one pro scout, and he watches just one team a year
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If Johnny was on the market there'd likely be a lot more smoke. (we shall see)
Don't think so. Treliving keeps his trades as quiet as possible. If he isn't dangling Johnny his head isn't right. This is the time when they can get max value. Don't Phaneuf this one up.

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Backlund would be Captain if not for Gio, the Flames are trying to bring in more leadership (ie: Tanev) not ship it out.
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I see you calling others out for suggesting trades with no salary coming back and here you are doing the same with Ryan?
You'll notice who it was too and the very minimal return. We're giving him away just so we don't have to take salary back, and helping Ottawa get to the salary floor.


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We could perhaps see Välimäki in the top 4 soon but Kylington will probably never be on Calgary's top pair.
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Yeah, likely is. Again, was focusing in on functional pairs more than anything.
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Old 10-10-2020, 04:42 PM   #1656
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Why would Lucic ok that?

Forget about Hall, he’s not coming here unless the Flames move Gaudreau and Ryan.

Trading Johnny for picks and prospects, to get cap space ,might sound great to the fan base , but I doubt it sounds great to Hall. Other teams that are vying for him aren’t getting rid of their best player to do it. These teams want to add Hall to complement with their top player or players. I would love Hall on team but I don’t see it happening.
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Old 10-10-2020, 04:43 PM   #1657
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Trading Johnny for picks and prospects, to get cap space ,might sound great to the fan base , but I doubt it sounds great to Hall. Other teams that are vying for him aren’t getting rid of their best player to do it. I would love Hall on team but I don’t see it happening.
I was of this thinking too but then the Flames got a new best player yesterday.
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Old 10-10-2020, 04:44 PM   #1658
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Here come the trades as teams don't get what they were looking for in free agency.
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Old 10-10-2020, 04:53 PM   #1659
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I think Hall is headed to Nashville. Colorado obvious out, so they go to plan B and bring Saad in. Strange because I thought Zadorov was a key piece on their blueline.
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C'mon, Hall. Reveal your short list so I can either get excited, or move on with my life.
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