[Signing] Flames sign Chris Tanev (4 years, $4.5 million AAV) - Page 18 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

GioforPM · 10-09-2020, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by timbit

It is a great contract for 3.125 per annum. Found money. You want to compare him to Bennett over the last 2 years?

Not even close.

I think he earned his money since being signed, I just think now it’s money better spent elsewhere going forward.

djsFlames · 10-09-2020, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

Brad has undone any positive actions he's made over the last week with this one signing.

I like Tanev, I wanted the Flames to sign him.

But this contract is atrocious. I'll cheer hard for this team, but this iteration of the Flames isn't winning anything.

The Flames either need to move on from BT or fire every single professional scout in the organization. I don't know who's to blame here. Both.

Lol. Okay.

Samonadreau · 10-09-2020, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Flames will sign Hall this weekend and then shed some salary on the Ryan/Rittich side and we’ll be Stanley Cup bound next season.

0% chance now

Crown Royal · 10-09-2020, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by timbit

It is a great contract for 3.125 per annum. Found money. You want to compare him to Bennett over the last 2 years?

Not even close.

Let me simplify.

3+ million on he 4th line is bad.

I don't give a #### if the found money was placed in the band of my boxers by Kerry Washington, on the 4th line it is a bad contract

good signings can turn into bad contracts, just look at Frolik.

dino7c · 10-09-2020, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by theinfinitejar

Not because they're similiar as players at all. Just feel like it's GMs feeling like they need to do something and making a bad deal instead of no deal.

I think you should at least wait until the offseason is done and the team plays a few games...Tanev was Vancouver's best dman in the playoffs according to a lot of talking heads

howard_the_duck · 10-09-2020, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

I think he earned his money since being signed, I just think now it’s money better spent elsewhere going forward.

The contract was just one year too long. Such as life in free agency.

But you’re right. He’s expendable for the role he’ll play moving forward.

Aarongavey · 10-09-2020, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theinfinitejar

The problem is he's not learning on the job. He's not learning at all.

That is not really fair, he is learning albeit slowly. I think at the end of the Taney contract he will probably pass on giving out more of these type of contracts.

Vinny01 · 10-09-2020, 10:19 PM

Canucks fans talking like he is a solid 2-3 Dman. Reading some of those comments are making me feel good and there is always a chance if he has a great year 1 in Calgary that Seattle will grab him in the expansion draft so this is like a one year rental?

Red · 10-09-2020, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Itse

First of all, that games played is pretty damned big difference. He has missed on average almost 30 games in the last four years. He's barely above 50 games per year in his whole career.

Second, Tanev is no Regehr defensively, and Regehr played in a pretty different era. These days, d-men need to bring offense.

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Originally Posted by theinfinitejar

Not because they're similiar as players at all. Just feel like it's GMs feeling like they need to do something and making a bad deal instead of no deal.

In fairness Tre did need to do something. We just lost 4 dmen.

Fan in Exile · 10-09-2020, 10:20 PM

I find the upset over this signing is way over the top. I think it's a decent signing although I would have preferred to keep Brodie. Tre has had a good day. We are far more solid defensively than when the day began. Still some work to do with the forward corps. I think beyond adding pieces, that group still needs to be shaken up. Expecting some trades rather than more signings.

Saqe · 10-09-2020, 10:20 PM

An ok signing, not great. Hopefully the downgrade offensively will balance out with better defense compared to Brodie.

Jore · 10-09-2020, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

That is not really fair, he is learning albeit slowly. I think at the end of the Taney contract he will probably pass on giving out more of these type of contracts.

He couldn't learn with Brouwer, Neal, Stone? This is the contract that learns him?

Calgary4LIfe · 10-09-2020, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by timbit

It is a great contract for 3.125 per annum. Found money. You want to compare him to Bennett over the last 2 years?

Not even close.

Not on the 4th line it isn't, and that's the point. Flames need to trim some fat off the lineup, unless Lucic is going to be moved.

TheScorpion · 10-09-2020, 10:21 PM

club official:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1314782501638791169

Wood · 10-09-2020, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by heep223

How are they going to sign Hall, they only have $5.5M of space now?

If the Flames are going to sign Hall, I expect Gaudreau to be traded. Obviously they can't afford it otherwise, but it wouldn't make sense to go into a season with three first line LWers

It's either going to be Hall + whatever assets we can get for Gaudreau (most likely picks/prospects or players on ELC to stay under cap) or stick with Gaudreau for another season IMO

theinfinitejar · 10-09-2020, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

That is not really fair, he is learning albeit slowly. I think at the end of the Taney contract he will probably pass on giving out more of these type of contracts.

I don't think he'll be giving out any types of contracts by then. At least not here.

DropIt · 10-09-2020, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I guess at the end of the day I'm a little confused about why the Flames always seem to either go for one-year cheap UFA deals or huuuuuuuge money UFA contracts at 4 years minimum

I wish we saw more two- or three-year contracts handed out by this management group. Maybe that's an unrealistic ask given Calgary's stature as a market. That fourth year just always seems to be a killer, though. Hope it's not the case here.

I like the Markstrom contract (a lot!) but this one just confuses me.

You dont seem to understand that a player has a say in the contract he signs as well... UFAs arent lining up for 2 or 3 year deals

Sylvanfan · 10-09-2020, 10:23 PM

There is one year too many on this deal, and I think it's about half a million too much. When you are a team like the Flames that can have a tougher time getting good players to come here, I get why they end up doling out these deals. But it's a definite downgrade on Brodie. In a way it does seem like Treliving trying to replace Hamonic with another guy who also has a few hard miles on him too.

GioforPM · 10-09-2020, 10:24 PM

FWIW:

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/c...-tanev-2722818

Itse · 10-09-2020, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Red

Been there, done that. Defensemen need to defend first. Our groups lately couldn't. But they were great at scoring points.

So you may be right, but it's hard to tell. Just look what guys like Cole and Zadorov did to our team. Especially the top line. Regher used to do that to others. Good defense is important.

Tanev is no Reggie. But the Flames need a good defensive guy, a guy that blocks shots and goes all out every shift. Tanev is pretty good at that

Well, I have been saying that our defense isn't good enough, and I'm not against signing Tanev as such. I don't hate the signing.

Buuuut...

Four years is IMO a lot of years for a guy for whom playing ALMOST 70 games is an achievement worth noting, and who while fine isn't what you'd call a difference maker. Not crazy about the cap hit either.