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Old 10-09-2020, 03:56 PM   #1301
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This is Very good news IMO. Shat only got 3.9. I would do up to 4.5 for Barrie (or Brodie for that matter.)
Brodie ain’t taking a pay cut. Barrie would, it seems but I think he realizes he’s in show me territory.
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Old 10-09-2020, 03:58 PM   #1302
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Brodie ain’t taking a pay cut. Barrie would, it seems but I think he realizes he’s in show me territory.
All the better IMO. Though I realize most disagree with me, I just think that Gio will be able to shelter Barrie just as well as he did brodie, while Barrie will bring a huge offensive punch we lack. Hanifin-Andersson showed they can act as a pair just fine!
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Old 10-09-2020, 04:00 PM   #1303
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I still think the biggest barrier for Brodie here is that he probably wanted assurances or a NMC to be protected from expansion.
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Old 10-09-2020, 04:01 PM   #1304
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If Barrie is really coming as cheap as around 4m that's great and I think a good grab, would still prefer brodie but I feel he has priced himself out of the club. I think this is going to be Kylington's show me year. Put him on the right side with Valimaki on his left and give him an actual chance this year.
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Just for the sake of conversation a Derek Ryan buyout would be a savings of $2,083,333 and a cap hit of
2020 $1,041,667
2021 $1,041,667
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Just for the sake of conversation a Derek Ryan buyout would be a savings of $2,083,333 and a cap hit of
2020 $1,041,667
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I highly doubt a buyout will be necessary. Florida still needs forwards, as does Ottawa. this guy is cheap and produces, someone will take a flyer.
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Still think Ryan brings Value on that contract. Would rather keep him
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I highly doubt a buyout will be necessary. Florida still needs forwards, as does Ottawa. this guy is cheap and produces, someone will take a flyer.
I would trade Ryan for a 4th round pick in a heartbeat. $3,125,000 in cap savings would give the Flames the flexibility they need to either shore up their D or bring in a legit top 6 winger. As it stands now the Flames have only about 4M to throw around.
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Old 10-09-2020, 04:09 PM   #1309
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Do we still need Ryan now? If we are giving Bennett a decent chance as a centre for the third line, he is overpaid for a 4th line centre. Gawdin should be given a chance to play a cheap 4th line centre.
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Do we still need Ryan now? If we are giving Bennett a decent chance as a centre for the third line, he is overpaid for a 4th line centre. Gawdin should be given a chance to play a cheap 4th line centre.
Ryan will still log 14+ minutes a night between penalty kill and "late game" scenarios.

4Cs need to be good too. Matt Cullen was the Penguins' 4C on their last couple cups and might have been their fourth most important forward after the three star players.
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Ryan will still log 14+ minutes a night between penalty kill and "late game" scenarios.

4Cs need to be good too. Matt Cullen was the Penguins' 4C on their last couple cups and might have been their fourth most important forward after the three star players.
Exactly this.

Only reason to move Ryan is to improve the team in a higher-need position (like to free up cap for some scoring help up front, or add a top-4 defenceman).
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Old 10-09-2020, 04:14 PM   #1312
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Our PK was pretty strong in 2016-17 when Backlund-Frolik and Bennett-Chiasson were the pairings. Monahan's play on the kill in 2014-15 was respectable too.
Bennett was our #6 PKer in 2016-17 and Chiasson the #7. Stajan, Bouma and Brouwer all played significantly more per game and they were a pretty middle of the pack PK
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Old 10-09-2020, 04:14 PM   #1313
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A Ryan buy out is not impossible.

Flames have $10 million cap space to add about 8 players.

5 forwards (which includes Mangiapane)
3 defense (which includes Kylington)

Mangiapane is going to eat up around $3 million of that I'm guessing.
Kylington will probably just get his QO of $787,500

That leaves a shade over $6 million for 3 F and 2 D.

I'll be pretty shocked if they don't land at least one more big name UFA, and if it's Taylor Hall they are going to have to clear some major cap out somehow.
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Rinaldo and Froese are re-signed by the Flames. (Fan960)
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Brodie ain’t taking a pay cut. Barrie would, it seems but I think he realizes he’s in show me territory.
A single 39 point season when he had the lowest amount of PP time he's ever had as an NHL regular puts him in show me territory?
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I would trade Ryan for a 4th round pick in a heartbeat. $3,125,000 in cap savings would give the Flames the flexibility they need to either shore up their D or bring in a legit top 6 winger. As it stands now the Flames have only about 4M to throw around.
So would the Minnesota Wild.
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Old 10-09-2020, 04:38 PM   #1317
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I made a cap friendly with Hall at 8m. The defence looked awful. Had Kylington on the second pair right side. Without moving Lucic who I moved down to the 4th line, it wouldn't work. Perhaps he is more moveable now that another year is gone. Who knows, but that is the only way I see a hall signing.
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Old 10-09-2020, 04:40 PM   #1318
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A single 39 point season when he had the lowest amount of PP time he's ever had as an NHL regular puts him in show me territory?
Apparently. Rumour has it he’s open to a one year deal.
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Rinaldo and Froese are re-signed by the Flames. (Fan960)
why re-sign guys we hardly play.

Ink some regulars, dammit.
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Old 10-09-2020, 04:42 PM   #1320
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why re-sign guys we hardly play.
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Stockton, most likely.
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