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				Super voodoo. Could easily be a bounce back year for Holtby. Will be an interesting year for Vancouver, lots of change. 
			
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Holtby has been bad for three straight regular seasons...plus he is playing goal for the Canucks minus Tanev 
 
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			10-09-2020, 04:20 PM
			
			
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				Markstrom/Rittich is probably one of the better tandems in the league. 
			
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As long as Rittich is good with the situation.  If he isn’t (and Treliving probably knows based on exit interviews and how he handled Talbot taking over) then I’d trade him for some cap room and sign a less expensive backup:  Greiss, Crawford, Dell etc.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-09-2020, 04:21 PM
			
			
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				And I think the Flames are defensively stronger than the Canucks just in terms of players that will commit to both sides of the puck so Markstrom will have an easier time than he has had.  
			
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Not totally accurate. The Canucks were VERY committed to Green's system. They bought in and they played the right way. They're just not very good at it. The team lacked players who could make sure that when the puck was exiting the zone, it was on a Canucks stick and not a dump out. Other than Hughes and Myers no one could do it at all. It's why I am a bit excited for Juolevi, he looks like he may have that ability.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-09-2020, 04:21 PM
			
			
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				Arizona has to be on any top 5 list of goalie tandems. Both their goalies are top 3 in league save % over the last few seasons and the advanced stats say they aren't being held up by strong team D either. 
 
Rinne is old and has been very sub par recently, and I'm not sold on Columbus tandem either. 
			
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			10-09-2020, 04:21 PM
			
			
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				Holtby has been bad for three straight regular seasons...plus he is playing goal for the Canucks minus Tanev  
 
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Capitals have been horrendous defensively post Trotz as well though
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-09-2020, 04:23 PM
			
			
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				Holtby has been bad for three straight regular  seasons...plus he is playing goal for the Canucks minus Tanev  
 
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Ask a Caps fan. They've been absolutely terrible in regards to helping out their goalies since their cup win. A majority are of the opinion Holtby will likely bounce back.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-09-2020, 04:23 PM
			
			
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				As long as Rittich is good with the situation.  If he isn’t (and Treliving probably knows based on exit interviews and how he handled Talbot taking over) then I’d trade him for some cap room and sign a less expensive backup:  Greiss, Crawford, Dell etc. 
			
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The Flames will need Rittich next season. 
 
I'll go one step further and say that teams will likely benefit from having a solid #3 goalie. If the NHL is not going to shorten the season at all, games will be pretty much every other day. With that much hockey in a short period of time one of your goalies is going to get hurt.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				The Flames will need Rittich next season.  
 
 
 
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And Markstrom has gotten hurt in the stretch runs of both the last two seasons and the play-offs.
 
Rittich will still be a huge part of the Flames success if they have any.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-09-2020, 04:26 PM
			
			
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				Capitals have been horrendous defensively post Trotz as well though 
			
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Jacob Markstrom will be 35 in the final season of his six-year deal. That’s the same age as Mike Smith when he began his two seasons in Calgary. Three years ago, Pekka Rinne won the Vezina Trophy at 35. Henrik Lundqvist is 38. 
 
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				Samsonov has pretty good numbers, I guess they play better for him 
			
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About the same as Holtby's the previous season, which you said was a bad year.
 
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			10-09-2020, 04:34 PM
			
			
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Jacob Markström #Flames 
  
6 year deal / $36,000,000 
$6,000,000 AAV 
 
2020-21: $4,000,000 base 
2021-22: $4,000,000 base 
2022-23: $8,000,000 base 
2023-24: $8,000,000 base 
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			I have no strong feelings about this signing. I like the Flames having good goaltending, but goalies are so hard to predict from one season and one team to the next that I feel like I'll need to wait a few months into next season before I know whether to be happy or not. It does look like it's probably a good move though.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I’ve always wanted a huge goalie here.  I don’t count Smith.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			That makes it pretty ugly to buy-out. He'll be a Flame all the way through.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Jacob Markström #Flames  
6 year deal / $36,000,000 
$6,000,000 AAV 
 
2020-21: $4,000,000 base 
2021-22: $4,000,000 base 
2022-23: $8,000,000 base 
2023-24: $8,000,000 base 
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NMC / Modified NTC 
			
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			10-09-2020, 04:39 PM
			
			
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Jacob Markström #Flames 
  
6 year deal / $36,000,000 
$6,000,000 AAV 
 
2020-21: $4,000,000 base 
2021-22: $4,000,000 base 
2022-23: $8,000,000 base 
2023-24: $8,000,000 base 
2024-25: $3,500,000 base + $2,500,000 SB 
2025-26: $3,500,000 base + $2,500,000 SB 
			
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Not to be a total cynic, but what do those SB mean for potential end of contract buy outs?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-09-2020, 04:39 PM
			
			
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				The Flames will need Rittich next season.  
 
I'll go one step further and say that teams will likely benefit from having a solid #3 goalie. If the NHL is not going to shorten the season at all, games will be pretty much every other day. With that much hockey in a short period of time one of your goalies is going to get hurt. 
			
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				And Markstrom has gotten hurt in the stretch runs of both the last two seasons and the play-offs. 
 
Rittich will still be a huge part of the Flames success if they have any. 
			
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I understand all of that, which is why I looked at veteran goalies.  I’m a little concerned about Rittich’s mental makeup.  So have the Flames from time to time.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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