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Old 10-09-2020, 12:55 PM   #481
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Just say no, 6x7 would be a huge YIKES
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He's been a free agent for less than 3 hours, some negotiations take months. It's a little early to be worrying about it falling apart
I think the concerns are coming from the fact that clearly people’s sources who are reporting on this thought it was done but now it isn’t. Surely shows that there’s been some changes instead of just negotiating. Obviously can’t always trust a source but clearly some sources felt confident to say it was close or done.

I also appreciate everyone is trying to break the story.
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Why do we have a problem paying $6 million for a #1 goalie?

Don't think anybody has an issue with $6M. It's the 6-7 years for a 31 year old that is the issue.
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I'm starting to get the feeling that this deal is falling through the cracks. This should not take this long, it was rumored to be done hours ago.

Jesus Christ. He's obviously down with your team. The season doesn't start for 3 month. You're 3 hours in. Breathe.
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Why do we have a problem paying $6 million for a #1 goalie?
6 Million a year with a complete NMC until he is 38 years old?

Come on.. obviously there is going to be concerns..
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Don't think anybody has an issue with $6M. It's the 6-7 years for a 31 year old that is the issue.
Yeah, I think most here would be tap-dancing with joy if its 5 years at $6M.
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I think the concerns are coming from the fact that clearly people’s sources who are reporting on this thought it was done but now it isn’t. Surely shows that there’s been some changes instead of just negotiating. Obviously can’t always trust a source but clearly some sources felt confident to say it was close or done.

I also appreciate everyone is trying to break the story.
How many legit sources have said it was done? Only I can recall is Strickland.
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We're talking like the Flames are offering Bobrovsky money...

$6M is your going rate for a #1 netminder.
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Fine with 7 because if they don’t win in the next 3 years anyway, they are in a full rebuild IMO
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It's a process.

Other teams don't have such obstacles so they move much quicker.
Markström is one of the top UFAs on the market. These deals are MUCH more difficult to consummate in a short term.
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6 Million a year with a complete NMC until he is 38 years old?

Come on.. obviously there is going to be concerns..
The reason this isn't done is because the Flames don't want that.
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Don't think anybody has an issue with $6M. It's the 6-7 years for a 31 year old that is the issue.
I have an issue with it if it's for more than 5 years. It should be 4x6 for who he is, but 5 is "meh, fine, fair enough". 6 years makes it an overpay, but not disastrous. 7 years is "yikes".
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Leslie says term, price, everything, still up in the air...
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Jesus Christ. He's obviously down with your team. The season doesn't start for 3 month. You're 3 hours in. Breathe.
Yeah, he's obviously DTF.

Sounds like some of you guys have trouble 'closing' yourselves with these nerves.
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6 Million a year with a complete NMC until he is 38 years old?

Come on.. obviously there is going to be concerns..
Being afraid of a 7 year deal that could just as easily be bought out is foolish in my eyes. You don’t project 6 years down the road. 6 years from now it could be a rebuild and we need the salaries to make the cap floor, who knows.

You need top end goaltending to win a cup. Get top end goaltending.
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Old 10-09-2020, 12:59 PM   #496
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6x7 I'd not be the happiest about.

6x6 is fair value for Markstrom.

5.5x6 I'd be happy with.
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Okay here is the flip side of the argument for just give him what he wants.

Who else is going to give him that? A lot of goalies moved today, who else is going to commit 7 years x $6 million if the Flames walk away?
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Old 10-09-2020, 01:00 PM   #498
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If it's 7 it should be under 6 AAV.

Closer to Holtby's number.

If they get their 6 years then I'm fine with 6 per.

So 6 years and $36M is fine, otherwise you want 7 years and closer to $30M?


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Old 10-09-2020, 01:00 PM   #499
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Leslie says term, price, everything, still up in the air...
Sounds like with all teams backing out and grabbing another goalie both teams are playing chicken.
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Old 10-09-2020, 01:00 PM   #500
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Strategy from Treliving.

Delay this long enough that all the other teams sign the rest of the goalies and fill their needs, then it's just Markstrom left on the market and the Flames are his only option.

Boom 5 years @ $5M AAV

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