[News] Jankowski wants a fresh start

[Vinny01]

There is still 2 years for him to become the best player from his draft. I guess it won’t be in Calgary

[Azhouse]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

People really need to learn to compare players better. Other than big and non-physical, they really aren't that similar. Other than board work, Colborne was pretty useless when he wasn't producing. The best parts of Jankowski's game are without the puck, and especially on the penalty kill. He's closer to Brian Boyle (without the hitting) than Joe Colborne.

Sure, I'll go with Brian Boyle without the hitting.

As per a direct comparison I meant more that the Flames are not qualifying him and he'll be out of the league in a couple of years.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I think Colborne would be in the NHL still if not for his injuries.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

So you liked the Gilmour trade?

Jnkowski was a rare successful Flames development project. He did everything that was asked of him and I could see that he might have thought he was a Flame for life.

The Gilmour trade is totally irrelevant, not sure why you'd bring it up. He was a successful development project? I guess, kinda... we developed a 3rd/4th liner in 4 years, yay.

No player should think they are going to be with the same team for their career. And if being part of a trade that fell through causes you to stop trying you are an idiot who is squandering millions in potential earnings.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Not sure how he isn't considered a bust for Calgary?

Calgary's management isn't even giving him a qualifying offer... So Calgary doesn't care if he walks away for nothing... That seems like a bust to me, especially for a former first round pick that's only 25

[bax]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

Not sure how he isn't considered a bust for Calgary?

Calgary's management isn't even giving him a qualifying offer... So Calgary doesn't care if he walks away for nothing... That seems like a bust to me, especially for a former first round pick that's only 25

There’s hundreds of players drafted in the same range that never play an NHL game.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

Not sure how he isn't considered a bust for Calgary?

Calgary's management isn't even giving him a qualifying offer... So Calgary doesn't care if he walks away for nothing... That seems like a bust to me, especially for a former first round pick that's only 25

Not entirely true. They had negotiations regarding a lower dollar contract.

Not saying it wasn’t a poor 1st round choice though.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by bax

There’s hundreds of players drafted in the same range that never play an NHL game.

Sure, and none of them are considered successful either...

If 'bust' is too strong an adjective for people, there's plenty of others: "failed experiment", "marginal NHL'er", "PK specialist"

At the end of the day, calgary didn't think he was worth the salary they paid him last year and thought that he could be replaced at a lesser value, so Calgary walked. Not exactly what people hope for their 1st round picks, even if their draft position is no guarantee of success

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

He is a borderline NHL player. Every 4th liner is who isn't on their entry contact.

He was benched in the playoffs by the 8th seeded team in favor of a grinder who played 3 minutes a game.

Sure he could score 10 goals in an outlier season. There's 100 guys in that category in the NHL

17 goal 14 goal 5 goals (in a short season) = 36 goals in 3 seasons 12 goals per season.

You are calling the 17 goals and the 14 as the multiple outliers and the 5 as a norm.

Derek Ryan (even less physical than Jankowski) 15 goals 13 and 10 . 38 goals over the last 3 season.

You have a mighty fine line for borderline players.

[CalgaryFan1988]

2012 Wasn't the best draft year, but when you see players like Teraveinen (who many people wanted the Flames to draft) and Hertl picked right above Jankowski, it gets frustrating.

Jankowski is better than I originally thought he was going to be.

[powderjunkie]

Of course it's always on the player to seize the opportunity, but the organization didn't do him many favours:

1. Feaster's ridiculous hubris
2. Development suffered because of the Flames accelerated rebuild into win-now mode before they were really ready.
3. He and Bennett were oil/water. They ended up together because of #2. Not a great situation for either to succeed.
4. 3 coaches in 4 seasons.

Look at Scott Laughton on the Flyers, picked 1 spot ahead. No ridiculous expectations. They weren't afraid to send him up/down. Gradually increasing ice time over the years...made him earn it and see incremental benefits.

[Teroy]

Originally Posted by mrchristy31

I'm not sure Jankowski ever will be an NHL regular. Watching him this last year, it looked like he had zero interest in competing. It looked like he was playing Saturday night Shinny. If only you could blend his hockey mind with Sam Bennet's drive and speed.........if only.

I always thought lack of effort was his biggest problem. I never doubted he had some talent, just no try.

[Fan in Exile]

It's disappointing. The acquisition of Derek Ryan took away the opportunity for him to grow into his existing role on the team. They tried to trade him with Brodie for Kadri last summer and this season he seemed to lack confidence and motivation. I think he'll boumce back and be a good player in a better situation. I see him as someone like Lars Eller. Could be a really solid middle-6 contributor on a quality team.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

17 goal 14 goal 5 goals (in a short season) = 36 goals in 3 seasons 12 goals per season.

You are calling the 17 goals and the 14 as the multiple outliers and the 5 as a norm.

Derek Ryan (even less physical than Jankowski) 15 goals 13 and 10 . 38 goals over the last 3 season.

You have a mighty fine line for borderline players.

Derek Ryan was a fringe NHLer for most of his career.

Could Janko go somewhere and develop into a Derick Ryan? Of course. We see a few every year.

[TheIronMaiden]

Jankowski was a fine player, but he didn't move the needle. The Flames need players who push them closer to finding playoff success. From a pure stats perspective Jankowski was the better player than Hathaway, but players like Hathaway bring so much more to a team.

Bottom line is Jankowski didn't bring it when the team needed him the most, and those players are always replaceable.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

There is still 2 years for him to become the best player from his draft. I guess it won’t be in Calgary

I think it's fair to discuss whether he became better than the player that went 1st overall. I say yes!

[HighLifeMan]

Jankowski is an absolute drain on possession. He is a terrible player at even strength.

Quite frankly I think he should be a winger. His shot is incredible but takes to long to get off. A little more open ice and less defensive responsibilities would be beneficial to his game.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Derek Ryan was a fringe NHLer for most of his career.

Could Janko go somewhere and develop into a Derick Ryan? Of course. We see a few every year.

Derek Ryan’s career average time on ice per game is 14:39. Last year his average
time on ice per game was 14:31.

He has averaged 34 points per season over his career, including an average of 34 points per season in his two years in Calgary.

So, a BIG NO to him being a “fringe NHLer for most of his career.“

[Red_Baron]

Bottom line:
He can be replaced for the same or less money. We can't over value these types of players. It wasn't a fit.

No denying his talent level but he never looked like he was hard to play against-except on the penalty kill. I never understood how he couldn't win those same puck battles at 5v5.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by timbit

Derek Ryan’s career average time on ice per game is 14:39. Last year his average
time on ice per game was 14:31.

He has averaged 34 points per season over his career, including an average of 34 points per season in his two years in Calgary.

So, a BIG NO to him being a “fringe NHLer for most of his career.“

Derick Ryan MADE the NHL at 28. So for the first 10 years he wasn't even an NHL player...

So you're correct. At Janko's age he WASN'T even a NHLer, not a fringe player like I claimed

Although fringe refers to being on the fringe of being in the NHL, or the fringe of not being in the NHL