[News] With the 50th OA pick the Flames select D Yan Kuznetsov

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Esa Lindell's career high at the same age for points was 0.

Miro Hieskanen's career high at the same age was 10 points

Jon Kilingburg's career high at the same age was 6 points

Jaimie Oleksiak's career high at the same age was 14 points, so he was more of an offensive juggernaut.

I just looked at one team, not sure what the offensive production was for other dmen in the league.

I feel like I don’t even need to search these stats to know that they aren’t true lol

[bax]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Flames took Rasmus Anderson @ 53 in 2015
Maybe not a slam dunk at the time but pretty close.
He was highly touted just some concerns with speed/his weight.

Not sure how many people here were upset with it, but I seem to recall a lot of us being happy/thinking we made out like bandits with this pick.

This is what was said of Andersson when he was drafted:

"Has a strong lower base, so he is able to compete and win battles against bigger forwards. Is very agile moving from the defensive zone to the attack. Is also a physical presence who is always willing to do the dirty work. Needs to improve his decision-making process in order to maximize his National Hockey League output, as he has a tendency to not always be in the right place at the right time. Must develop greater consistency for the NHL."

Far from a can't miss prospect. I just find the outrage on draft day funny. Many posters have never watched this guy player and they are upset. Kuznetsov has great upside.

[monkeyman]

I like the pick, and our draft overall.
just getting in my 2 cents for posterity.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think Kuznetsov's NCAA production is more or less fine.
But he only had 4 points in 34 USHL games. That's pretty iffy. Really, he took a huge step forward in terms of production this year.

Meh, Oleksiak had 4 points in his first USHL season and he was not coming from a foreign country with language barriers.

[sureLoss]

Here is U19 d-man scoring for NHL drafted players last season in the NCAA



edit: and I believe most on that list are a year older than Kuznetsov

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Flames could have an all Russian shut down pair one day...

Yan Kuznetsov - Alexander Yelesin

Nikolaev - Zavgorodniy - ?????

Kuznetsov-Yelesin

Zagidullin

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by neo45

I feel like I don’t even need to search these stats to know that they aren’t true lol

Search away, all stats are true as of their draft year.

[bax]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think Kuznetsov's NCAA production is more or less fine.
But he only had 4 points in 34 USHL games. That's pretty iffy. Really, he took a huge step forward in terms of production this year.

He really did. He is a draft riser and historically that is usually a good thing.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Search away, all stats are true as of their draft year.

You think Esa Lindell hadn’t ever scored a point in his career before he was drafted?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Nikolaev - Zavgorodniy - ?????

Kuznetsov-Yelesin

Zagidullin

With any luck in the 3rd round, add in Dmitri Ovchinnikov and Alexander Pashin. If we can snag those two guys in the 3rd, this draft...

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think Kuznetsov's NCAA production is more or less fine.
But he only had 4 points in 34 USHL games. That's pretty iffy. Really, he took a huge step forward in terms of production this year.

Again.. I don't think people realize how difficult it is to play in the USHL at 16.. or the NCAA at 17 years old.

The fact that Kuznetsov is playing above his peers speaks volumes to his potential.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by neo45

I think the career high of 11 points at ANY level is a massive red flag that the upside just isn’t there


Is there an example of a top 4 D in the entire league who produced that little offensively?

Hjarmalsson comes to mind.

[TheScorpion]

I don't give a #### how many points this guy can score as long as he has good gap control, can skate backwards, can separate guys from the puck, and has good transitional abilities.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by neo45

You think Esa Lindell hadn’t ever scored a point in his career before he was drafted?

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/...php?pid=155341

He had seasons of

0 points draft year
Draft+1 - 10 points
Draft +2 - 10 points

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Nikolaev - Zavgorodniy - ?????

Kuznetsov-Yelesin

Zagidullin

That question mark could be this guy,

https://www.tsn.ca/dmitri-zlodeyev-centre-1.1472321

I always wonder if the brothers go on scouting trips together.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

With any luck in the 3rd round, add in Dmitri Ovchinnikov and Alexander Pashin. If we can snag those two guys in the 3rd, this draft...

The C of Red Army!

I like it!

[Bonded]

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/...php?pid=155341


Can't quote Neo but two seconds of googling

[Jore]

I really like what I’m reading about his 4 way mobility and agressive gaps. His profile sounds a little bit like parayko to me. The next year will be key to see if the flames’ scouts got it right. Kind of high risk high reward

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/...php?pid=155341

He had seasons of

0 points draft year
Draft+1 - 10 points
Draft +2 - 10 points

Fake news. Make the Flames great again

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Bonded

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/...php?pid=155341


Can't quote Neo but two seconds of googling

Over a point per game with 20+ goals in junior A for his draft year with a PPG at the under 18’s