[News] Flames trade down (twice) to the 24th OA pick and select C Connor Zary

[oldschoolcalgary]

Wheeler had Zary at 13 and Pronman at 11...

so he did slide a bit, and it might be due to skating concerns... but Calgary got him at 24 which is pretty incredible value imo...

it's something he'll need to work on, but he isn't the first player that was deemed an average skater that improved by the time he got to the NHL

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Husky

Sigh - in a deep draft if you are hoping your 1st rounder is a middle 6 player - you have failed.

Lmfao. Is Michael Backlund a failed pick?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

But if he's not a dad now and he is making dad jokes anyway, is that a faux pa?

This is a truly underrated joke. Well played.

[Ashasx]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1313672771013160960

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

Wheeler had Zary at 13 and Pronman at 11...

so he did slide a bit, and it might be due to skating concerns... but Calgary got him at 24 which is pretty incredible value imo...

it's something he'll need to work on, but he isn't the first player that was deemed an average skater that improved by the time he got to the NHL

By definition, there are a lot of "average" skaters in the NHL.

Puck skills, HIQ, and competitiveness are more important factors, unless you're talking about a player with really elite skating.

[mile]

Kelowna Rockets' play-by-play guy on Zary:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1313671896420937728

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

By definition, there are a lot of "average" skaters in the NHL.

Puck skills, HIQ, and competitiveness are more important factors, unless you're talking about a player with really elite skating.

based on their scouting, they saw his skating as 'average', that's their assessment, not mine.

Still didn't prevent them from putting Zary 11th and 13th... so their assessment didn't scare them off from ranking him highly.

if his skating was elite, he would have been a top 10-15 pick

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Husky

Sigh - in a deep draft if you are hoping your 1st rounder is a middle 6 player - you have failed.

You do know even in a deep draft 75% of these players won't play in the NHL. If we end up getting a middle six player at 24 that is a home run.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Zary, Zagidullin, Zavgorodniy...whats next? A Zarley?

Zdeno is a UFA

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Chingas

I was watching the draft on my phone around the time that the 19th pick was up and there was a shot of the Flames war room with a jersey in the background. The Jersey had 4 letters and looked to me like it said Zary. Did anyone have a larger screen and can tell me what was written on that jersey?

In case anyone hasn't posted it yet, it was #20 - King, for Uncle Ken.
Made me pretty happy.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

https://twitter.com/user/status/1313672771013160960

So Sanderson and Quinn were big reaches, and Zary and Brisson were steals? Am I reading that right?
Stutzl down at 9?

What is darts?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Husky

Sigh - in a deep draft if you are hoping your 1st rounder is a middle 6 player - you have failed.

If you think you are getting first rounders at the end of the 1st round you have no idea on the odds of the draft

If you can constantly product 2nd line talent in the late 1st you are laughing

[Reggie Dunlop]

Who's Zary Now?

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

If you think you are getting first rounders at the end of the 1st round you have no idea on the odds of the draft

If you can constantly product 2nd line talent in the late 1st you are laughing

100% of 1st round picks are 1st round picks. #Facts

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

What is darts?

I don't know but I will live in a world where I can pretend the Flames got a top 5 prospect

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Husky

Sigh - in a deep draft if you are hoping your 1st rounder is a middle 6 player - you have failed.

Doing the anti-oilers thing cant be the wrong move here. You know, rather than making HOF comparisons off of junior or farm team level play.

Also consider how the Flames dubbed Bennett a future #1C savior coming out of that draft and how that worked out.

It gives the guy room to actually exceed the bar, rather than scratch and claw to come anywhere near it.

I think it shows they've learned from others' and their own past mistakes.

I would focus on those ROR and Lindholm comparisons if you're looking for hype.

End of the day he was still drafted 8-12 spots below his projection so it takes some mental backflips to say it was poor value.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

You do know even in a deep draft 75% of these players won't play in the NHL. If we end up getting a middle six player at 24 that is a home run.

That's not correct. 2003 was a deep draft. 75% of the players drafted in the first round of that draft not only played in the NHL, but were impact players. I hope Zary is an impact player for us.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Makarov

That's not correct. 2003 was a deep draft. 75% of the players drafted in the first round of that draft not only played in the NHL, but were impact players. I hope Zary is an impact player for us.

I'm talking about the entire draft class, not just the first round.

[Classic_Sniper]

Good play by Treliving. Pick the player you like and pick up a few 3rds in the process. If Treliving can parlay a pick or 2 or a piece to acquire NHL ready help tomorrow, then that would have to be considered a successful draft.


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[sureLoss]

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames GM Brad Treliving with us on trading down from 19 to 22 and eventually to 24:

“Connor (Zary) was a guy we were targeting. He was in a group of guys because if you move down you have to have options. We can use the age-old line: we can’t believe he was there”.