2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Owen15]

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[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Oh well because a GM said something, that must be it then.

Colorado was let down by goaltending this year. Markstrom fixes that. They have space and a lot of flexibility even if they sign Markstrom to 6-7 million dollar deal.

If he isn't a Canucks, he's an Av.

Let down due to injury. They still have goalies signed and ready to go. They aren’t adding a goalie.

[AustinL_NHL]

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[MRCboicgy]

Can we not...just...c'mon ppl.

[TheScorpion]

I expected so much better from the rumours and speculation thread.

How disappointing.

[PepsiFree]

Scorpion, please give me your immunity idol, I sense danger.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Markstrom got hurt in the playoffs too...guess he "let the Canucks down" too

I've been pretty clear that Markstrom's injuries over the last two years are a legit concern.

But Grubauer, who is the "#1" has never played more than 40 games in a season due to injury issues usually won't cut it.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I expected so much better from the rumours and speculation thread.

How disappointing.

Especially this week with the draft TODAY and free agency in three. There's plenty to discuss instead of pages of Canucks discussion, Bennett debates and to fellate or not to fellate.

It's not like it's September 5th of a regular off season where most moves and rosters are set.

[yourbestfriend]

Originally Posted by jg13

I personally believe the numbers for Markstrom are going to be closer to $7M over 6-7 years based on the amount of teams that will be interested and if that's the case, if Vegas is willing to pay that much to take on Fleury i'm all for it for 2 years.

Can't see it.
Bishop signed $4.9AAV when he was UFA after coming off seasons with 37, 40 and 35 wins (I believe he was partially injured in his UFA year). And that was in an environment where the cap was increasing every year. With cap uncertainty for the foreseeable future and a ton of bad contracts floating around, a GM who gives Markstrom that much must be really desperate and taking a big gamble.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I've been pretty clear that Markstrom's injuries over the last two years are a legit concern.

But Grubauer, who is the "#1" has never played more than 40 games in a season due to injury issues usually won't cut it.

Is it a history though or just this last season that it was injuries? Prior to that he was always the backup to a top end veteran.

16-17: He played 23 games, Holtby played 63 games Washington used only 2 goalies. No sign of injury.
17-18: He played 35 games, Holtby played 54 games. Washington used only 2 goalies. No sign of injury.
18-19: He played 37 games, Varlamov played 49 games, Francouz played 2 games. No real sign of injury.

Then this last season he had groin / lower body injuries all season. First in December, then again in the Stadium Series Game, and once again in the playoffs after a long break. But he still played 36 games.

Honestly if he were to become available he would become the top goalie on my wish list. He's the youngest of the group at 28, has been great when he's played, and has the highest upside of any of the rumored goalies available.

A Grubauer-Rittich tandem could be great IMO.

[bigpete]

Like can we stop with the Canucks speculation about OEL. Nobody cares, why do I have to keep hearing about it?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I've been pretty clear that Markstrom's injuries over the last two years are a legit concern.

But Grubauer, who is the "#1" has never played more than 40 games in a season due to injury issues usually won't cut it.

The fact the Canucks are one of the worst teams for shots against has a lot to do with Markstrom's injuries IMO. Demko played two games and had to be hooked to an IV

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

There's plenty to discuss instead of pages of Canucks

Actually, if you look on page 1, post #2, this entire thread is about Oliver-Ekman-Larsson and his possible deal to the Canucks. If you could continue praying to make sure he ends up in Boston, that would be great.

Originally Posted by dino7c

The fact the Canucks are one of the worst teams for shots against has a lot to do with Markstrom's injuries IMO. Demko played two games and had to be hooked to an IV

The IV thing didn't actually happen, afaik, but it was a good joke. The high shots system that the Canucks employ was employed because it worked best for what Markstrom did best. Markstrom plays better when facing a lot of shots. The Canucks job was to limit those to the perimeter and outside, which they did a great job of in the play-offs.

Originally Posted by bigpete

Like can we stop with the Canucks speculation about OEL. Nobody cares, why do I have to keep hearing about it?

I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

Can't see it.
Bishop signed $4.9AAV when he was UFA after coming off seasons with 37, 40 and 35 wins (I believe he was partially injured in his UFA year). And that was in an environment where the cap was increasing every year. With cap uncertainty for the foreseeable future and a ton of bad contracts floating around, a GM who gives him that much is really gambling.

He might not be worth $7 million, but if there are 3-4 teams competing for his service, that would generate a higher cap.
I think whoever signs him for anything over $6 million (unless it's a shorter contact) is probably going to be pretty disappointed with the contract in the next few years (especially if the flat cap extends for the next ~5 years).

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

He might not be worth $7 million, but if there are 3-4 teams competing for his service, that would generate a higher cap.
I think whoever signs him for anything over $6 million (unless it's a shorter contact) is probably going to be pretty disappointed with the contract in the next few years (especially if the flat cap extends for the next ~5 years).

I think any team that gives him a NMC and more than 5 years is going to regret it.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I think any team that gives him a NMC and more than 5 years is going to regret it.

You would definitely have a better read, so I'll trust that.
If the contract is 5 years or less, I don't think I would have a problem with a NTC though (since we don't have any other goalies we need to protect in the expansion draft).

[bax]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

The IV thing didn't actually happen, afaik, but it was a good joke. The high shots system that the Canucks employ was employed because it worked best for what Markstrom did best. Markstrom plays better when facing a lot of shots. The Canucks job was to limit those to the perimeter and outside, which they did a great job of in the play-offs.

What? The Canucks purposefully gave up a lot of shots because Markstrom likes facing lots of shots? Then they continued with this strategy even after Markstrom was injured? Which presumably had something to do with facing a massive amount of shots every single game?

Are you sure they didn't just get outplayed and didn't possess the puck as much as the other team?

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

You would definitely have a better read, so I'll trust that.
If the contract is 5 years or less, I don't think I would have a problem with a NTC though (since we don't have any other goalies we need to protect in the expansion draft).

I am also somewhat concerned how he'll perform away from Ian Clark. We watched what happened with Bobrovsky, but that's a smaller concern.

The hold up between Markstrom and the Canucks is apparently the lack of a NMC/NTC, he wants $$$ if that's not going to be there. How much extra money that is hasn't leaked.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Oh well because a GM said something, that must be it then.

Colorado was let down by goaltending this year. Markstrom fixes that. They have space and a lot of flexibility even if they sign Markstrom to 6-7 million dollar deal.

If he isn't a Canucks, he's an Av.

Sounds like wishful thinking on your part.

[jg13]

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

Can't see it.
Bishop signed $4.9AAV when he was UFA after coming off seasons with 37, 40 and 35 wins (I believe he was partially injured in his UFA year). And that was in an environment where the cap was increasing every year. With cap uncertainty for the foreseeable future and a ton of bad contracts floating around, a GM who gives Markstrom that much must be really desperate and taking a big gamble.

If you're going to use one example i'll use one as well. Obviously not the end all be all but..

Over the last 4 seasons:
Bobrovsky: .916 save percentage
Markstrom: .913 save percentage

Bobrovsky just got paid $10M AAV / 7 YR (Signed as a 30 year old) last year and you don't believe Markstrom will get close to a 7M figure at potentially a year less term?