2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Harry Lime]

Interesting to see what Vancouver will offer for OEL. The prevailing winds indicate the preferred cap dump of Louie Eriksson, that the Arizona request is a defensive prospect possibly Juolevi, the 2021 first round pick and a secondary prospect such as Kole Lind.

My thoughts on Eriksson are that he has two years left at 6M cap but 4M actual dollars. Also, that he was a very effective player in Boston before immediately becoming a black hole in Vancouver. He was very good in international play last year. The Coyotes are simply not going to compete next year, so this is a warm body for the bottom six, but it's clear that he lost his love for the game in Vancouver. He has negative or zero value due to his contract.

Juolevi is 22 years old, and has been steadily improving each year. A slow progression sure, but the skills that got him drafted so high are still there. A buy low addition. Plus a first and Lind being worth a second.

So essentially 2 firsts and 1 second for OEL, but achieving the primary purpose of saving the owners a boatload of money. Vancouver doesn't part with an essential piece of their current roster, and hold onto their top two prospects.

Whatever.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Yall will balk at me but I would 100 percent trade Mangiapane for Korpisalo. In a heartbeat.

Yup, I'm balking. Angrily, in fact. Angry balking.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

Sure, but you don't just qualify him because you made a bad trade. That shouldn't even be factored into the decision.

Oh, I know - that number is a reason they won't do it, is what I'm saying.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Yall will balk at me but I would 100 percent trade Mangiapane for Korpisalo. In a heartbeat.

[Blaster86]

So doing some net surfing to try and find out more about this the rumour going right now is that the Canucks are expecting: retained salary and one of Sutter or Eriksson going the other way. Eriksson is actually really appealing to the Coyotes because his cap hit is high but his actual owed dollars is low.

What the Coyotes are expecting is cheap, young players who can play now. So Gaudette, Motte, Virtanen or even a Juolevi.

The length and number of the OEL contract is gross. Legit gross. Anything outside of 50% cap number retained is just a deal breaker for me.

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Juolevi is 22 years old, and has been steadily improving each year. A slow progression sure, but the skills that got him drafted so high are still there. A buy low addition. Plus a first and Lind being worth a second.

Juolevi's development was severely stalled by injuries.

[Barca]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Interesting to see what Vancouver will offer for OEL. The prevailing winds indicate the preferred cap dump of Louie Eriksson, that the Arizona request is a defensive prospect possibly Juolevi, the 2021 first round pick and a secondary prospect such as Kole Lind.

My thoughts on Eriksson are that he has two years left at 6M cap but 4M actual dollars. Also, that he was a very effective player in Boston before immediately becoming a black hole in Vancouver. He was very good in international play last year. The Coyotes are simply not going to compete next year, so this is a warm body for the bottom six, but it's clear that he lost his love for the game in Vancouver. He has negative or zero value due to his contract.

Juolevi is 22 years old, and has been steadily improving each year. A slow progression sure, but the skills that got him drafted so high are still there. A buy low addition. Plus a first and Lind being worth a second.

So essentially 2 firsts and 1 second for OEL, but achieving the primary purpose of saving the owners a boatload of money. Vancouver doesn't part with an essential piece of their current roster, and hold onto their top two prospects.

Whatever.

I don't think Juolevi is on the block. JB has mentioned him playing a regular role next season so..

Rafferty on the other hand is a guy who is cheap and can step in and play right away for the Yotes.

[1qqaaz]

I would give up a lot for Merzlikins. I really mean a lot.

But Korpisalo hasn't really shown any progression since his rookie year.
I would still like Korpisalo, but maybe not for Mangiapane.

I thought Friedman said the Flames were talking to Columbus about goalies, but then it fell apart?

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Barca

I don't think Juolevi is on the block. JB has mentioned him playing a regular role next season so..

Rafferty on the other hand is a guy who is cheap and can step in and play right away for the Yotes.

Juolevi may not be on the block, but he can still be moved in the right situation.

[Barca]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

So doing some net surfing to try and find out more about this the rumour going right now is that the Canucks are expecting: retained salary and one of Sutter or Eriksson going the other way. Eriksson is actually really appealing to the Coyotes because his cap hit is high but his actual owed dollars is low.

What the Coyotes are expecting is cheap, young players who can play now. So Gaudette, Motte, Virtanen or even a Juolevi.

The length and number of the OEL contract is gross. Legit gross. Anything outside of 50% cap number retained is just a deal breaker for me.

i think the pros outweighs the cons in acquiring him.

he's an excellent 2 way puck moving defenceman that is a consistent 40+ point defenceman on offensively challenge Arizona teams. I think he'll flourish playing in our system.

Sutter and or Eriksson are gone this offseason and this means we're also not re-signing Tanev and Stecher that will open up a lot of cap

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Juolevi may not be on the block, but he can still be moved in the right situation.

I agree. You need to decide whether Rafferty and Hoglander is something that you can stomach instead of Lind and Juolevi. A high end piece is going either way, and the way the Canucks are structured it's better to take that hit on the defensive side.

[Vinny01]

Steinberg just said Brodie’s number 1 priority is staying in Calgary.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Steinberg just said Brodie’s number 1 priority is staying with Calgary.

Sign me the #### up. Please!

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I would give up a lot for Merzlikins. I really mean a lot.

But Korpisalo hasn't really shown any progression since his rookie year.
I would still like Korpisalo, but maybe not for Mangiapane.

I thought Friedman said the Flames were talking to Columbus about goalies, but then it fell apart?

Im thinking the exact same. I would begrudgingly send Mangi to Columbus for Merzlikins but not for Korpisalo.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Steinberg just said Brodie’s number 1 priority is staying with Calgary.

Well this would be a MASSIVE, positive development for the Flames.

Sign. Me. Up.

[Monahammer]

Ugh. 4.5 max please...

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Steinberg just said Brodie’s number 1 priority is staying in Calgary.

i'd be curious to know some details. The term on a potential Brodie contract still scares me.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I agree. You need to decide whether Rafferty and Hoglander is something that you can stomach instead of Lind and Juolevi. A high end piece is going either way, and the way the Canucks are structured it's better to take that hit on the defensive side.

They can have one of the Juolevi, Rafferty or Lind; one of Virtanen or Motte; have to take Eriksson; and have to eat the max amount they can of his cap number. No picks.

I am not paying a premium for a player they have to move that has handcuffed their options.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Steinberg just said Brodie’s number 1 priority is staying in Calgary.

I'd love to keep Brodie

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think Laine is going to be a tough deal to actually happen until there is more of a pinch point (next off-season). I anticipate a large gap between what the Jets want and what teams would pay that will be hard to bridge.
Same might be true for Johnny but the pinch point is already coming.

I think there could be something there with Buffalo to be honest, especially since they got Staal to fill the 2nd line C hole for a steal.

Winnipeg needs RH d-men, could use some forwards, and always like stockpiling picks.

Could see a starting point of something like:

8th Overall
2021 Conditional 1st (Lottery protected)
Ristolainen
Reinhart

for

Laine

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Steinberg just said Brodie’s number 1 priority is staying in Calgary.

If it's 3-4 years for around $5M I'd be okay with it.

Hanifin-Anderson
Giordano - Brodie
Valimaki - Demelo

I could live with that.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I think there could be something there with Buffalo to be honest, especially since they got Staal to fill the 2nd line C hole for a steal.

Winnipeg needs RH d-men, could use some forwards, and always like stockpiling picks.

Could see a starting point of something like:

8th Overall
2021 Conditional 1st (Lottery protected)
Ristolainen
Reinhart

for

Laine

Does Laine have that much more value than Johnny?