2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

Just think about how bad the Oilers are making Nurse look

Oh, don't get me started on that.....

[TheScorpion]

I too would vastly prefer Barrie to Vatanen. Unfortunately it seems Sami is always injured and when he's in the lineup I find he's kind of a riverboat gambler back there, far moreso than Barrie who I find is a lot more steady and makes the odd mistake.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Sandman

IMO, Schultz makes Ceci and Risto look like Lidstrom in the D zone. Exaggerating, of course, but.....

Schultz would basically just be a direct swap for Gustafson; 5-6 guy, #1 pp unit.

[Sandman]

Out of all of them, I would go for Vatanen myself-he's pretty good all over the ice, very fast, and would make a good replacement for some of what Brodie brings (brought)

[Icon]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I too would vastly prefer Barrie to Vatanen. Unfortunately it seems Sami is always injured and when he's in the lineup I find he's kind of a riverboat gambler back there, far moreso than Barrie who I find is a lot more steady and makes the odd mistake.

I feel like Barrie's going to be paid a lot more than Vatanen, that's my only draw back going that route.

There really aren't many other RHD options available though unless it's through trade. Might have to bite the bullet one way or another.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Hedman was one of the best defensemen on earth by his 5th season (22 years old). Ekblad, 24, is no where near that level and never will be.

I also doubt Hanifin gets to that level.
Hardly anyone does. No defenseman in the entire league has had the career that Hedman has. Maybe Keith, but I don't even think he deserved the two Norris trophies. Doughty's peak didn't last as long. Josi took way longer to develop.

Keith was so underrated during the regular season, and then he became the best defenceman in the league during the playoffs.

In 2015, he willed a team which was OK, but not elite, to the Stanley Cup.


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[ComixZone]

From Dreger/Lebrun:

- Oilers in on OEL (preliminary stages), Bruins also involved
- Rangers to buyout Lundqvist
- Oilers have spoken to the Penguins (Murray), Coyotes (Kuemper), Carolina (Mrazek), keeping an eye on Markstrom situation
- Lots of interest in Jake Virtanen
- Tampa already looking to shed somewhere around $10M (Johnson, Gourde both cited as options - but both have full-NTC). Lightning may surprise us here and move someone we don't expect.

[sureLoss]

Insider trading:

Rangers expected to buyout Lundqvist

preliminary stages of OEL trade talks. Edmonton and Boston among the teams interested

Oilers have shown interest in Murray, Kuemper, and Mrazek.
Mrazek most likely a plan B for the Oilers if they can't find a significant upgrade
Keeping an eye on Markstrom

Canucks listening on Virtanen and may have no choice but to move him due to cap issues.
Lots of interest in Virtanen.

Lightning need to shed $10 million in cap space.
Obvious targets Johnson, Gourde have full NTCs.
Source told LeBrun that a surprise player could be on the move to open up the space

[Sandman]

If he wasn't going to cost an arm and a leg, I would advocate for Brendan Dillon. He's huge, skates well, plays well in his own zone, and is physical and mean. Kind of a poor man's Regehr. We could use a little of that.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If he wasn't going to cost an arm and a leg, I would advocate for Brendan Dillon. He's huge, skates well, plays well in his own zone, and is physical and mean. Kind of a poor man's Regehr. We could use a little of that.

How much do you think he'll get?

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

How much do you think he'll get?

My guess is $4.5M/per? Don't roast me lol.....

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Lightning need to shed $10 million in cap space.
Obvious targets Johnson, Gourde have full NTCs.
Source told LeBrun that a surprise player could be on the move to open up the space

Other than Point, every skater on the Lightning who earns more than $2 mil a season has a NTC or NMC. Incredible.

I could see them trading Sergachev rather than pay him $4 mil plus. But that doesn’t come close to freeing up $10 mil.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

From Dreger/Lebrun:

- Tampa already looking to shed somewhere around $10M (Johnson, Gourde both cited as options - but both have full-NTC). Lightning may surprise us here and move someone we don't expect.

Maybe Stamkos agrees to a trade?

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Maybe Stamkos agrees to a trade?

That wouldn't surprise me

[Jiri Hrdina]

Virtanen looking like an early bet for "mistake of the off-season" for whichever team gets him.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Sandman

My guess is $4.5M/per? Don't roast me lol.....

No plan to, he's a guy I have no idea what he might get

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Virtanen looking like an early bet for "mistake of the off-season" for whichever team gets him.

You know which team it will be....

We are getting one of Ryan Or Jake.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

No plan to, he's a guy I have no idea what he might get

Some would say that Gudas will be cheaper, and can bring some of what Dillon does. wouldn't be wrong, I just think that Dillon has a bigger presence, and is better with the puck.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by New Era

And the only way to get a #1 center is to get a top two pick in most instances. Unless we suck in an epic way, and win the lottery, we're going to have to find other means to finding a #1 center. You're better off in trying to cherry pick one out of an organization that is trying to take advantage of a window or has expectations of success where they don't want to wait on the development curve.

Hhhmmmmmm. That doesn't seem right to me...

Anaheim: Ryan Getzlaf, drafted #15
Arizona: Derek Stepan, drafted #51
Buffalo: Jack Eichel, drafted #2
Boston: Patrice Bergeron, drafted #45
Calgary: Sean Monahan, drafted #6
Carolina: Sebastian Aho, drafted #35
Chicago: jonathan Toews, drafted #3
Colorado: Nathan MacKinnon, drafted #1
Columbus: Pierre Luc Dupios, drafted #3
Dallas: Tyler Seguin, drafted #2
Detroit: Dylan Larkin, drafted #15
Edmonton: Connor McDavid, drafted #1
Florida: Sasha Barkov, drafted #2
Las Vegas: William Karlsson, drafted #53
LA: Anze Kopitar, drafted #11
Minnesota: Marcus Johansson, drafted #24
Montreal: Phillip Danault, drafted #26
Nashville: Ryan Johansen, drafted #4
New Jersey: Nico Hischier, drafted #1
NYI: Matthew Barzal, drafted #16
NYR: Mike Zibanejad, drafted #6
Ottawa: Colin White, drafted #22
Philadelphia: Sean Couturier, drafted #8
Pittsburgh: Sidney Crosby, drafted #1
San Jose: Logan Couture, drafted #9
St Louis: Ryan O'Reilly, drafted #33
Tampa: Brayden Point, drafted #79
Toronto: John Tavares, drafted #1
Vancouver: Elias Pettersson, drafted #5
Washington: Nicholas Backstrom, drafted #4
Winnipeg: Mark Scheiffele, drafted #7

There are eight centres on that list who were drafted in the top-two of their draft classes. Now, of course there is a lot of poor players on this list—players that no one would classify as a top-line centre. But there are still plenty of elite-level top centres in the mix who also did not even crack the top-five. Patrice Bergeron, Sebastian Aho, Ryan Getzlaf, Brayden Point, Matt Barzel, Ryan O'Reilly, Anze Kopitar, Mike Zibanejad, Sean Cotourier, Logan Couture, and Mark Scheifele are (or were) all elite-level top-line centres who were drafted outside of the top-five. It definitely can happen, and it would seem to happen with some frequency.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by delayedreflex

Plus if you get the #1 or 2 pick in a crappy year you might just end up with an RNH - he's a decent player and all but no franchise centre.

But Mike Zibenijad and Mark Scheifele—both of whom were selected after The Tenderness™ in the same Draft—arguably are at least quality top-line centres.