2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Monahammer]

Things I would like that are potentially realistic from Carolina:
- Their 1st
- Dougie Hamilton
- Martin Necas


I would probably accept Necas and a 2nd tbh. I think Necas is going to be good.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Makarov

So, I recently listened to a Calgary Flames podcast (which will remain nameless for its own protection) where the his proposed the following trade:

Gaudreau to Carolina for Dzingel and a 2nd round draft pick.

I don't understand.

lol that is about the worst one I have seen. Why did they think it was a good deal?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Makarov

So, I recently listened to a Calgary Flames podcast (which will remain nameless for its own protection) where the his proposed the following trade:

Gaudreau to Carolina for Dzingel and a 2nd round draft pick.

I don't understand.

That's easily the worst Gaudreau proposal.

Just horrible.

[TheScorpion]

Lol. That's frickin abysmal.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Lol. That's frickin abysmal.

Was thinking it might have been your podcast at first.

Would be right up there with your take that French Fries are a waste of potatoes.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

your take that French Fries are a waste of potatoes.

Starting a petition to have TheScorpion banned.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Was thinking it might have been your podcast at first.

Would be right up there with your take that French Fries are a waste of potatoes.

[Makarov]

Gaudreau-Aho-Svechnikov would be fun for Carolina fans I guess

[David Struch]

Hanifin for 1st + 2nd(s) - not in long term plans
Bennett will be happier somewhere else
Jankowski can be had for future considerations
Ryan not in coaches plans, relegated to 4th line
Rittich can be had cheap too, team is not confident in front of him
Kylington is the sweetener, not in coaches plans either

Hall (7.0) - Backlund - Tkachuk
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Dubé - Ruzicka - Mangiapane (2.5)
Lucic - Quine (.700) - Reider (.700)

Pietrangelo (8.5) - Andersson
Välimäki - Giordano
Mackey - Yelesin

Markstrom (4.85)
Zagidulin

Cap Hit: $81,264,166
Buyouts: $2,666,667
Bonuses: $1,372,500
Cap Space: $2,684,168

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Hanifin for 1st + 2nd(s) - not in long term plans
Bennett will be happier somewhere else
Jankowski can be had for future considerations
Ryan not in coaches plans, relegated to 4th line
Rittich can be had cheap too, team is not confident in front of him
Kylington is the sweetener, not in coaches plans either
*Lucic (5.2 cap hit) could be bought if needed

Hall (7.0) - Backlund - Tkachuk
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Dubé - Ruzicka - Mangiapane (2.5)
Lucic - Quine (.700) - Reider (.700)

Pietrangelo (8.5) - Andersson
Välimäki - Giordano
Mackey - Yelesin

Markstrom (4.85)
Zagidulin

Cap Hit: $81,264,166
Buyouts: $2,666,667
Bonuses: $1,372,500
Cap Space: $2,684,168

That could be a pretty disasterous bottom 6 depending on how confidence is going.

Im a bit confused, I think your cap space would still work out if you kept Bennett in the fold, and it does bolster that bottom 6.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Gaudreau-Aho-Svechnikov would be fun for Carolina fans I guess

I think they'd be pretty Lethal with Gaudreau, but I would spread the wealth:

Teravainen-Aho-Svech
Gaudreau-Trochek-Niedereiter

Looks pretty killer tbh. A little on the small side but wicked fast.

[Poster]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Hanifin for 1st + 2nd(s) - not in long term plans
Bennett will be happier somewhere else
Jankowski can be had for future considerations
Ryan not in coaches plans, relegated to 4th line
Rittich can be had cheap too, team is not confident in front of him
Kylington is the sweetener, not in coaches plans either
*Lucic (5.2 cap hit) could be bought if needed

Hall (7.0) - Backlund - Tkachuk
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Dubé - Ruzicka - Mangiapane (2.5)
Lucic - Quine (.700) - Reider (.700)

Pietrangelo (8.5) - Andersson
Välimäki - Giordano
Mackey - Yelesin

Markstrom (4.85)
Zagidulin

Cap Hit: $81,264,166
Buyouts: $2,666,667
Bonuses: $1,372,500
Cap Space: $2,684,168

If Markstrom would sign for 4.85, he would be a Canuck already. What makes you think that’s all it will take?

Same for AP & TH, you are significantly underestimating how much the AAV will be.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Hanifin for 1st + 2nd(s) - not in long term plans
Bennett will be happier somewhere else
Jankowski can be had for future considerations
Ryan not in coaches plans, relegated to 4th line
Rittich can be had cheap too, team is not confident in front of him
Kylington is the sweetener, not in coaches plans either
*Lucic (5.2 cap hit) could be bought if needed

Hall (7.0) - Backlund - Tkachuk
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Dubé - Ruzicka - Mangiapane (2.5)
Lucic - Quine (.700) - Reider (.700)

Pietrangelo (8.5) - Andersson
Välimäki - Giordano
Mackey - Yelesin

Markstrom (4.85)
Zagidulin

Cap Hit: $81,264,166
Buyouts: $2,666,667
Bonuses: $1,372,500
Cap Space: $2,684,168

I'm pretty confident that neither Ruzicka nor Quine are centres on a playoff team, never mind a Cup contender.

[Harry Lime]

I was interested when Ryan Donato ended up on the Trade Bait board for TSN. Rumbled through the other teams to see which players league wide have high upside and should be on the NHL club, but are not. These players are between the ages of 21-24 and are generally at the end of their ELCs. Some GMs, like the new one in Florida, are probably working to remedy this, but in the meantime there is gold in them dere hills. MH is mishandled, and B is blocked.

Buffalo - Casey Middelstadt (MH)
Florida - Henrik Borgstrom (MH), Chase Priskie (B)
Montreal - Noah Juulsen (B)
Toronto - Jeremy Bracco (MH)
Carolina - Jake Bean (B)
Minnesota - Ryan Donato (MH), Will Bitten (MH)


Jesse Pulujarrvi, Lias Andersson and Josh Ho-Sang (going the way of Honka)
Julien Honka (remember Honka!?)

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Things I would like that are potentially realistic from Carolina:
- Their 1st
- Dougie Hamilton
- Martin Necas


I would probably accept Necas and a 2nd tbh. I think Necas is going to be good.

Jesus, that is almost as bad as the original Carolina rumour.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Jesus, that is almost as bad as the original Carolina rumour.

Necas is really good, and only going to get better.

He's also on his ELC, expansion exempt and already playing in Carolina's top 6.

I don't see any way they would move him if you take all that into consideration.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Necas is really good, and only going to get better.

He's also on his ELC, expansion exempt and already playing in Carolina's top 6.

I don't see any way they would move him if you take all that into consideration.

Niederiter-Geekie-Necas was more of a 3rd line than a top 6 line, but yes i think it would definitely be a stretch for Carolina to move him.

21 year old RHS centre who had over .5 ppg in reg season and .5ppg in post season playing bottom 6 minutes. He's a perfect target for us.

I think Carolina might be convinced to move him in the right circumstances: of note, ownership there has been very clear about wanting to advance further in the post season and make another cup run. Though Necas is a good piece, there must be some allure to adding another offensive player of Gaudreau's Caliber.

[Harry Lime]

Carolina sees Necas as the second part of a 1-2 punch with Aho. I can't see him being moved unless it's a big overpay. Geekie, Suzuki, Bokk, Keane and Bean are more reasonable targets, and even them they will hold onto pretty tightly. One of them and the Toronto 1st would be the basis of a deal, with Nino or Dzingal balancing out the salaries.

[Matt Reeeeead]

Necas would be a huge add, and based on contract, cap hit, draft exemption, I would be surprised if he would be available in a trade of two years of Gaudreau.

The Dzingel one is laughable. You can get comparable players in free agency at a similar cap hit without giving up any value. That is basically Johnny for a second....


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[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead

Necas would be a huge add, and based on contract, cap hit, draft exemption, I would be surprised if he would be available in a trade of two years of Gaudreau.

The Dzingel one is laughable. You can get comparable players in free agency at a similar cap hit without giving up any value. That is basically Johnny for a second....


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I think they Carolina would be tripping over themselves to do that deal and they could likely keep Gaudreau longer than two years. He would be over 100 points on that team IMO.

Flames are the team with the proven top end player here