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Old 09-23-2020, 07:05 PM   #7601
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Don’t get me started on this again... it’s way easier to protect the puck on your backhand.

Breakout, I agree with.
You can’t skate as fast if you are protecting the puck on your backhand, and your head is not in a good position to see the ice to pass it. And when you do pass it, you’re on your backhand, unless you do a complete pivot. If you are driving the net, you can have the puck at full extension on your forehand, away from the defender, with your shoulder into him, if you are on your strong side.
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I grew up playing Lacrosse and never understood the hockey mentality that the stick faces towards the boards and not the net. It automatically reduces the net to the short side shot with a worse angle than if they were on their "off wing". I get it for defencemen and puck retrieval but as a hockey player i prefer to play on my off wing to maximize the shooting angles. seems odd but smarter men than I have determined this is the way.


note: to be clear in Lacrosse lefties play on the right side and righties play on the left side of the floor.

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Shooting angle is better on your off wing, but the reason hockey players do it this way is because so much of the game is played on the boards (especially breakouts)
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Righty on RW. 1) More reach when driving wide, though it may be easier to protect the puck on your back hand, your reach is far greater on your forehand. When beating a defender wide you can maintain your reach and your speed when your stick is towards the boards. 2) The other advantage is passing. Your are petty much always making passes, advancing the puck, from the forehand rather then the backhand with your stick towards the boards.
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Triggered! Like, really, how do you analyze things and think that you want to pay that for Hamonic? How?! Sorry, I am a bottle of red in.
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Righty on RW. 1) More reach when driving wide, though it may be easier to protect the puck on your back hand, your reach is far greater on your forehand. When beating a defender wide you can maintain your reach and your speed when your stick is towards the boards. 2) The other advantage is passing. Your are petty much always making passes, advancing the puck, from the forehand rather then the backhand with your stick towards the boards.
Depends on the player. I have no preference when passing, backhand or forehand. Actually, I’d say I prefer my backhand a little more.
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Depends on the player. I have no preference when passing, backhand or forehand. Actually, I’d say I prefer my backhand a little more.
Can get more loft on a shorter motion.

Also way more reach on your backhand when skating straight... are you guys for real? How many guys you see wheeling with the puck with their lower hand on the stick?
Backhand means full arm extension, full length of the stick, while maintaining arm swing for speed. It’s the superior way to carry the puck.
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Can get more loft on a shorter motion.

Also way more reach on your backhand when skating straight... are you guys for real? How many guys you see wheeling with the puck with their lower hand on the stick?
Backhand means full arm extension, full length of the stick, while maintaining arm swing for speed. It’s the superior way to carry the puck.
Yeah, that’s why most NHLers prefer to carry the puck backhand.
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Yeah, that’s why most NHLers prefer to carry the puck backhand.
You’re telling me most NHL’rs don’t wheel with the puck with their top hand on the stick to get speed? If you’re on your strong side, the puck is in the middle of the ice. Closer to the d man. If you’re on your off wing, it’s further away from the d man. Significantly further. With the ability to increase that distance.
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I grew up playing Lacrosse and never understood the hockey mentality that the stick faces towards the boards and not the net. It automatically reduces the net to the short side shot with a worse angle than if they were on their "off wing". I get it for defencemen and puck retrieval but as a hockey player i prefer to play on my off wing to maximize the shooting angles. seems odd but smarter men than I have determined this is the way.


note: to be clear in Lacrosse lefties play on the right side and righties play on the left side of the floor.
As a left shot winger I found it way easier to play LW in my own end than on my off hand. The offensive zone benefits of playing my off wing weren’t enough to offset the defensive zone deficiencies I experienced. Especially as someone who wasn’t offensively gifted.
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You’re telling me most NHL’rs don’t wheel with the puck with their top hand on the stick to get speed? If you’re on your strong side, the puck is in the middle of the ice. Closer to the d man. If you’re on your off wing, it’s further away from the d man.
No in close quarters they don’t, which is what were talking about. Watch how they do it right now.

Why do you think RHS RWers are so sought after?
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No in close quarters they don’t, which is what were talking about. Watch how they do it right now.

Why do you think RHS RWers are so sought after?
Options. And again, I’m agreeing with you that to play the game the most efficiently you should be on your strong side. Mostly for your own end. But it’s way easier to protect the puck on your backhand. Like, Jagr and Crosby are the best at this right? The pretty much exclusively protect the puck on their backhands in close quarters.
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Options. And again, I’m agreeing with you that to play the game the most efficiently you should be on your strong side. Mostly for your own end. But it’s way easier to protect the puck on your backhand. Like, Jagr and Crosby are the best at this right? The pretty much exclusively protect the puck on their backhands in close quarters.
I don’t think Jagr and Crosby are typical examples. But Crosby in particular does both. Jagr mainly turned his back to the opposition at a standstill.
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Depends on the player. I have no preference when passing, backhand or forehand. Actually, I’d say I prefer my backhand a little more.
But I bet your coach would prefer you make a crisp, firm tape to tape pass from your forehand over a backhand flip into your teammates skates. Like 80% of controlled puck possession in the NHL on the forehand and passing, 9 out of 10 pass attempts are on the forehand. What you prefer in a half speed beer leaugue scrimmage of house league bantam game does not correlate to the NHL.
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I don’t think Jagr and Crosby are typical examples. But Crosby in particular does both. Jagr mainly turned his back to the opposition at a standstill.
Okay, then let’s have some plumbers show us how they to do it (first good visual example I could find that wasn’t Crosby):
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Old 09-23-2020, 07:52 PM   #7616
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There’s a video on you tube showing how Crosby does it from both sides.

When you protect the puck backhand, your options are severely limited. Name me a RHS who plays LW.
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But I bet your coach would prefer you make a crisp, firm tape to tape pass from your forehand over a backhand flip into your teammates skates. Like 90% of puck possession in the NHL on the forehand.
Probably wouldn’t have put me on my off wing if my passes were in my teammates skates. I’m not saying 90% of possession is on the forehand. Just depends on the player. Look at Brodie, clearly better on his backhand and he gets the puck up ice from his backhand just fine.
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Probably wouldn’t have put me on my off wing if my passes were in my teammates skates. I’m not saying 90% of possession is on the forehand. Just depends on the player. Look at Brodie, clearly better on his backhand and he gets the puck up ice from his backhand just fine.
Brodie is not better on his backhand, he’s just really good on it And better than most players. His forehand passes are better than his backhand passes. It’s just that he’s not as much better than other players when doing it so it’s not as noticeable. That and people just tend to remember the really good backhand passes because they are more unusual.
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There’s a video on you tube showing how Crosby does it from both sides.

When you protect the puck backhand, your options are severely limited. Name me a RHS who plays LW.
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Most Russians.
Ovechkin shoots right and plays left, while most Russian wingers shoot left and many play the right side.
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