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[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Counterpoint: I have no issue with referring to the United States as a complete mess of a country, due only to a minority of their population. Granted, it's a larger minority than racists are in Red Deer, presumably, but where do you want to draw that line?

... I'm really just playing devil's advocate here; I don't actually think Red Deer is a disgusting cesspool because of a twitter post.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I’d only be unhappy because “Deep South” is the wrong comparison. We’re the Texas of Canada.

I defend our urban population (Calgary and Edmonton) but having spent a lot of time in rural communities, I think it’s true. I’ve even commented numerous times about how Calgary earned its moniker as Texas North based on my experiences since I came to Alberta 20 years ago.

It sucks for the people who are lumped in with the rest but that’s life.

The only part that’s hypocritical is that rural Ontario, Quebec, Manitoba, Sask and BC have the same problems.

If you’re from red deer, it sucks that your city has a bad rep but then again maybe it’s earned.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Not surprising. Red deer is a cesspool, always has been. That town attracts all the worst trash from Alberta.

Ever been to that dump during the oil boom on a Fri/Sat night? It’s like a scene outta Deadwood.

And the RCMP allowed it to happen? Shocking.

Originally Posted by jayswin

Red Deer is a disgusting place, this isn't surprising in the least.

Jesus these types of posts make you looks stupid.

Red Deer like all towns/cities has problems, but to classify it in this way is ridiculous.

####ing Do Better.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I’d only be unhappy because “Deep South” is the wrong comparison. We’re the Texas of Canada.

Closer to Utah and Idaho than Texas.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

... I'm really just playing devil's advocate here; I don't actually think Red Deer is a disgusting cesspool because of a twitter post.

I mean Calgary must also be a cesspool of racists:

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Refuses to wear a mask in the store (while wearing a bandana around his neck) and a racist to boot.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1307485117284114432

[burn_this_city]

The steady dose of US hard right wing media is starting to permeate here. I don't think we're immune to the polarization happening down south.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Long story short: yes. Short story a little longer, these angry people aren’t just in Alberta and it’s a very big problem.

Ok... but it happened 'here', and I live here. I get random/anonymous (to me) racism in the US... but I won't tolerate it within my vicinity.

Seriously, to fight racism in Alberta do I have to join ANTIFA? I'm not super militant, but to let a gang of racists break-up/bully an anti-racism protest? Where I live? And I might get beat up for doing anything to stop it? Where the hell is the Centre in all this? Passively watching to see who wins? Deeply disappointed in how 'silent' the majority is.

WTF is happening to Alberta/Canada? Time to to be vigilant.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by New Era

Closer to Utah and Idaho than Texas.

Alberta’s closest U.S. counterpart is Colorado. We’re much more urban and much less religious than Idaho or Utah.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Ok... but it happened 'here', and I live here. I get random/anonymous (to me) racism in the US... but I won't tolerate it within my vicinity.

Seriously, to fight racism in Alberta do I have to join ANTIFA? I'm not super militant, but to let a gang of racists break-up/bully an anti-racism protest? Where I live? And I might get beat up for doing anything to stop it? Where the hell is the Centre in all this? Passively watching to see who wins? Deeply disappointed in how 'silent' the majority is.

WTF is happening to Alberta/Canada? Time to to be vigilant.

Unfortunately there’s no easy answers to your questions, with that being said you can probably avoid joining antifa. Personally I do my best to call out and denounce hatred when given the opportunity, but I know not everyone is going to be capable of doing that and there’s definitely a lot of scenarios where doing so can be a dangerous thing(years ago I knew someone who was beaten half to death for standing up for a cashier he didn’t know who was being harassed) so really you have to use your best judgement in any case, and remember even a small gesture can have a lasting impact.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Alberta’s closest U.S. counterpart is Colorado. We’re much more urban and much less religious than Idaho or Utah.

Completely disagree. From a geographical standpoint, yes. From a belief and ideological standpoint, no. Alberta has way too many conservatives and fringe elements to be like Colorado. 25 years ago, maybe, but the Colorado of today is too liberal in many regards. The "traditional" conservatism in Alberta is more like Utah (less the religion) and the fringe (extreme) is just like Idaho (less the guns).

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by New Era

Completely disagree. From a geographical standpoint, yes. From a belief and ideological standpoint, no. Alberta has way too many conservatives and fringe elements to be like Colorado. 25 years ago, maybe, but the Colorado of today is too liberal in many regards. The "traditional" conservatism in Alberta is more like Utah (less the religion) and the fringe (extreme) is just like Idaho (less the guns).

Alberta gets that reputation because it's conservative by Canadian standards. But by every measure (church attendance, attitudes about guns, attitudes about abortion, attitudes about immigration), Alberta is much less conservative than Idaho or Utah.

[jayswin]

Actually yeah, that was a stupid thing for me to say about Red Deer. I despise that we appear to be following the US lead of divisive, hateful discussion devoid of kindness, acceptance or tolerance, and what I said feeds right into that.

My apologies for that comment.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Alberta gets that reputation because it's conservative by Canadian standards. But by every measure (church attendance, attitudes about guns, attitudes about abortion, attitudes about immigration), Alberta is much less conservative than Idaho or Utah.

I think it probably depends if you're looking at those attitudes in an absolute sense, or relative to the rest of the country. Is Alberta less religious relative to the rest of Canada than Idaho is relative to the rest of the United States?

... the correct answer is probably "who cares".

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I think it probably depends if you're looking at those attitudes in an absolute sense, or relative to the rest of the country. Is Alberta less religious relative to the rest of Canada than Idaho is relative to the rest of the United States?

... the correct answer is probably "who cares".

I do! So I looked it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Canada

Alberta ranks third highest....for non-religious. The narratives appear to be entirely incorrect.

[dammage79]

Anything northeast of Red Deer and I worry mightily for those Anti-racism protesters. Thats not a good area to be without support. If the RCMP in Red Deer aren't going.to do anything, what do you expect Camrose, Vergerville, Lloydminster, wainwright and Bonnyville and ahem...Provost RCMP to do about it.

I'm very certain the song and dance will be worse out there in the rural areas.

[D as in David]

Isn't Red Deer mostly Edmonton Oilers fan country?

There's your answer for whether it's a cesspool or not.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I do! So I looked it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Canada

Alberta ranks third highest....for non-religious. The narratives appear to be entirely incorrect.

But are our crazies more crazy or less crazy than Canada's average religious crazy person?

Also, it's a shame that the question of religion is only featured once every ten years on the Canadian census, as I suspect irreligiosity has increased at a faster rate than it has previously and it would be interesting to know where the numbers now sit. Based solely off my own perception of course, so I could be entirely wrong.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Georgia sheriffs pull over an Uber, demand ID from the (black) passenger, get upset when he doesn't have it, and then beat the #### out of him

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/us/cl...ker/index.html

This won't have the staying power of other stories because no one died, but it's just as disgusting to read and watch

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I do! So I looked it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Canada

Alberta ranks third highest....for non-religious. The narratives appear to be entirely incorrect.

Mormon population in Utah is 62%, 24% in Idaho, 9% in Lethbridge, 13% around Taber.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Alberta gets that reputation because it's conservative by Canadian standards. But by every measure (church attendance, attitudes about guns, attitudes about abortion, attitudes about immigration), Alberta is much less conservative than Idaho or Utah.

Hence removing religion from the argument. In a comparison of attitudes and the extremes to which those attitudes will go, and in relation to those same constraints in American states, Alberta is like Utah and Idaho. Very very conservative in relation to the rest of Canada (Utah), and with some real nutbars in certain communities (Idaho).