2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Barca

Friedman says the Canucks are looking to 'overhaul' the defence and singled out Ekblad and Cernak as defencemen that could be available.

Riiiight. With Petterson and Hughes as well as Demko coming up for new contracts in a year. Who are they trading? What will they pay Cernak?

[Monahammer]

I knew there was something behind the Florida smoke. I think we should see if we can land ekblad. Cernak certainly wouldn't be bad either

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Barca

Friedman says the Canucks are looking to 'overhaul' the defence and singled out Ekblad and Cernak as defencemen that could be available.

Hughes for Ekblad sounds good.

[Blaster86]

edit - not going to peddle in rumours that I won't source.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

edit - not going to peddle in rumours that I won't source.

Why not?!

This is the exact thread for that sort of thing. Just qualify it with whatever you want first.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

So, it's very much so an orange julius thing since I am not going to name names buuuut: I know someone who knows things in regards to the Canucks inner workings. Both Hughes and Pettersson have been approached about and are apparently open to taking bridge deals with AAVs like Boeser. Delay the big pay-day for a short window to go hard.

Whether it actually happens or not, we'll know in a year.

I don't believe this for a second. Petterssen is a point/GP centreman, and Hughes matched Boeser's career high in scoring as a defenseman in his rookie season.

It doesn't matter what the terms for either player look like, they are both getting paid ALOT more than Boeser on their next deals. It is delusional wishful thinking to imagine otherwise.

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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

edit - not going to peddle in rumours that I won't source.

Even if they did, that’s probably 12-14 million for the two of them. Plus Boeser comes up again a year later.

They also will either sign Markstrom to a big contract or pay a veteran free agent like Talbot to come in.

They’d need to shed salary to get Ekblad IMO.

[David Struch]

Hall (7.0) - Backlund - Tkachuk
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Dubé - Bennett - Mangiapane (2.25)
Lucic - Ryan - Reider (.700)

Giordano - Andersson
Välimäki - Hanifin
Mackey - Kylington (.950)

Markstrom (4.85)
Rittich

Cap Hit: $81,264,166
Buyouts: $2,666,667
Bonuses: $882,500
Cap Space: $235,834

Needs some breathing room but trades will also be made (ie: Derek Ryan, Noah Hanifin)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Hall (7.0) - Backlund - Tkachuk
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Dubé - Bennett - Mangiapane (2.25)
Lucic - Ryan - Reider (.700)

Giordano - Andersson
Välimäki - Hanifin
Mackey - Kylington (.950)

Markstrom (4.85)
Rittich

Cap Hit: $81,264,166
Buyouts: $2,666,667
Bonuses: $882,500
Cap Space: $235,834

Needs some breathing room but trades will also be made (ie: Derek Ryan, Noah Hanifin)

All those salaries except Kylington’s are pretty optimistic.

[ComixZone]

To me this off-season is going to be an off-season worth spending futures in. There are so many teams with apparently huge pieces available - some aiming to cut costs. It is shaping up to be one hell of an opportunity to add to/alter the core pieces going forward.

I hope we get some of the big free wins via free agency (Markstrom & Hall), but if we're involved on players like Ekblad that require some future assets? You go for it. Or if things start opening up for hockey deals - like an Ekblad for Gaudreau trade? Ah this is going to be a fun October.

And we're getting a switch to retros full-time/possibly a new 3rd jersey? The world may be falling apart but at least the off-season will be entertaining!

[dammage79]

No, no to spending futures. They've done enough and gotten Lindholm and Hanifin out of it. Thats it. Thats all they got. The Hamonic gamble was extremely devastating .

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Steinberg says Markstrom is one of the Flames "top points of interest" should he get to free agency. confirmed by contacts in Calgary, Vancouver, and across the league.

https://flamesnation.ca/2020/09/19/t...cob-markstrom/

Finally a rumour I like involving the flames. If Vancouver is dumb enough to let him walk , the flames better be all over this .

[Enoch Root]

Every fanbase believes that their stars are special, and are open to taking a home team discount in order to help the team win.

The reality however, is that every player has an agent, and those agents have clients in every city, and have to negotiate with every GM. Agents STRONGLY push their clients away from settling - it is bad for the market overall. The message is always the same and always clear: your career is short, and an injury could cut it short at any time - you MUST get what you are worth. The team shouldn't need you to compromise in order for them to win, and the players on every other team are not compromising. So you shouldn't either.

[Enoch Root]

Having said that, the one argument in favour of short contracts is that money is going to be tight for a couple years. It is certainly reasonable to make the argument that it makes make sense to take a lower-pay, 2 year deal, and then look to get paid afterwards.

But that is different than hoping for a I'll-take-less-to-help-the-team-win discount.

[GioforPM]

Burke’s comments today about the effect of taxes is pretty key for the Hall/Markstrom discussions. Flames will have to overpay to make the net pay even out.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I don't believe this for a second. Petterssen is a point/GP centreman, and Hughes matched Boeser's career high in scoring as a defenseman in his rookie season.

It doesn't matter what the terms for either player look like, they are both getting paid ALOT more than Boeser on their next deals. It is delusional wishful thinking to imagine otherwise.

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I believe it because of the current flat cap and upcoming TV deals. Bridge deals ending in 3 years could be ideal for them. I don't believe is has anything to do with going hard for it.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

All those salaries except Kylington’s are pretty optimistic.

I'd say they are all pretty realistic, with Kylington's being 100k too high

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Burke’s comments today about the effect of taxes is pretty key for the Hall/Markstrom discussions. Flames will have to overpay to make the net pay even out.

That’s always been the case.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Burke’s comments today about the effect of taxes is pretty key for the Hall/Markstrom discussions. Flames will have to overpay to make the net pay even out.

That $500,000 difference in take-home that he was talking about was in reference to Ontario. In AB, it is about half that.

Also, homes are a lot cheaper here than in Toronto (or Vancouver). AB holds up pretty well (relatively) on the take home pay front.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Burke’s comments today about the effect of taxes is pretty key for the Hall/Markstrom discussions. Flames will have to overpay to make the net pay even out.

Alan Walsh blew Burkies statements out of the water afterwards. Saying Canada has many loopholes to stickhandle around taxes.