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		|  09-17-2020, 01:57 PM | #41 |  
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					Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!  I think you can buy after market programming that makes your tesla nearly autonomous. People show off online a lot...like reading a book in the backseat and stupid stuff like that. |  
Count down to a porn filmed in a self-driven Tesla.............
		 
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		|  09-17-2020, 01:59 PM | #42 |  
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					Originally Posted by undercoverbrother  Count down to a porn filmed in a self-driven Tesla............. |  
Oh I’m sure we’re T+ there.
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		|  09-17-2020, 01:59 PM | #43 |  
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					Originally Posted by undercoverbrother  Count down to a porn filmed in a self-driven Tesla............. |  
 You may need to find a new thing to count down too...
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		|  09-17-2020, 02:04 PM | #44 |  
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		|  09-17-2020, 02:15 PM | #45 |  
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			Look, man, this is the internet.  Rule 34 always applies.
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		|  09-17-2020, 02:17 PM | #46 |  
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		|  09-17-2020, 02:23 PM | #47 |  
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					Originally Posted by DoubleF  What? Hell no. 
 The dude was tired and sleeping, not actually legally impaired. Yes, perhaps it's not safe to drive if you haven't slept for 2 days suffering from insomnia, but unless you violate rules, you're not doing anything wrong. Plus, if you get a ticket, you get a ticket for the rule you were violating.
 
 Honestly speaking, I think this is more in between fatigue and distracted driving. Not a DUI.
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How is this not worse than distracted driving? He's purposely taking all attention off the road. It's also not fatigue. This wasn't someone driving after a long shift. He purposely put his seat back and lost consciousness while in control of a motor vehicle. On top of that he was speeding.
 
It's much closer to criminal negligence (and probably is) than distracted driving.
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		|  09-17-2020, 02:25 PM | #48 |  
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			Guy wasn't very smart.  If you want to get a good rest you are better to set it at the speed limit and get a longer sleep.  Amateur.
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		|  09-17-2020, 02:37 PM | #49 |  
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			I'm betting Tesla will figure out a way to reduce or prevent people from doing this.
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		|  09-17-2020, 02:39 PM | #50 |  
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					Originally Posted by zamler  I'm betting Tesla will figure out a way to reduce or prevent people from doing this. |  
 If they can, I'm not sure what they are waiting for.  It's been happening since at least 2016.
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		|  09-17-2020, 02:51 PM | #51 |  
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					Originally Posted by zamler  I'm betting Tesla will figure out a way to reduce or prevent people from doing this. |  
You can't stop full stupid. 
 
Also, the wheel needs to feel some force when in AP about every minute or so. To do what this moron driver did, you'd have to circumvent that.
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		|  09-17-2020, 03:11 PM | #52 |  
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			This ain't hard. 
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					Originally Posted by sketchyt  You can't stop full stupid. 
 Also, the wheel needs to feel some force when in AP about every minute or so. To do what this moron driver did, you'd have to circumvent that.
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		|  09-17-2020, 05:05 PM | #55 |  
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					Originally Posted by blankall  How is this not worse than distracted driving? He's purposely taking all attention off the road. It's also not fatigue. This wasn't someone driving after a long shift. He purposely put his seat back and lost consciousness while in control of a motor vehicle. On top of that he was speeding.
 It's much closer to criminal negligence (and probably is) than distracted driving.
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Splitting hairs, but as I hinted in my previous posts, I have no issue throwing reckless driving and/or stunting as part of the speeding ticket. I just vehemently disagree on DUI.
 
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					Originally Posted by GGG  I agree the current law does not allow him to be charged with a DUI.  A person sleeping in a vehicle should be able to be charged with a DUI like in New Jersey. |  
Why do they issue DUI over something like reckless driving?
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		|  09-17-2020, 05:44 PM | #56 |  
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			In 10 years, this could be commonplace and legal minus the ridiculous speed.
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		|  09-17-2020, 05:45 PM | #57 |  
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			Why does it matter what they call it?
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		|  09-17-2020, 05:46 PM | #58 |  
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			What happens if fall asleep in a car without driving assistance and collision avoidance tech?
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		|  09-17-2020, 06:30 PM | #59 |  
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					Originally Posted by DoubleF  Splitting hairs, but as I hinted in my previous posts, I have no issue throwing reckless driving and/or stunting as part of the speeding ticket. I just vehemently disagree on DUI.
 
 
 Why do they issue DUI over something like reckless driving?
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What he did should be criminal.
 
I equate it to a DUI because he impaired himself beyond the condition requires to safely operate a vehicle.  Excessive fatigue should also have the same consequences.  As should cell phone use.  When you intentionally impair your ability to drive to a similar extent as .08 then the consequence of that action should be the same.  It this case, presuming the story is true, this guy was as impaired as someone who was passed out.
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		|  09-17-2020, 08:06 PM | #60 |  
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			Speeding yes.
 Dangerous driving is going to be an interesting case for the prosecutor.  One could easily argue that this car was being driven the safest out of any car on the road that day.
 
 That being said, the driver was clearly not driving the car in a manner that is legal here, nor in a manner that is recommended by the manufacturer.
 
 At some point in the coming years, laws will have to be changed to better cover things like this.  But it’s not likely now.
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