Let's Talk about the Calgary Police Service

[RichieRich]

My wife and I are a mixed couple... NEVER had an issue anywhere in Western Canada, Montana, California, Hawaii, Mexico, Japan, or even travelling in Africa. Of course when are with other mixed couples no outsider can possibly figure out who belongs to who, spouse and kids included!

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

It's all fun and games for a lot of people on CP. Unless you're coloured you have no idea what it feels like to deal with the police. Let me give you my latest example. A cop stopped me for no reason in beddington last week. I asked him multiple times why I was being stopped, he never answered why, my girlfriend even asked and never received an answer at the time. I gave my registration and insurance info, and still I had to get out of the car and "prove my Innocence"...My gf (who is white and blonde) was asked four times if she was "in any disturbance"... She said no time over time...why did I get stopped? I still don't know... They never told me, and my gf to this day says "This country is f'd up".... Plus my complaint about the officer has gone nowhere.

There's likely body warn camera evidence. Request it and post it.

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[Fire]

Originally Posted by Coach

I’d happily take a 30 min test to renew my license every 5 years if it kept the people off the road who very obviously should not have licenses.

Additional testing would not accomplish anything except extract money out of your bank account.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

There's likely body warn camera evidence. Request it and post it.

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I don't think you get police body cam footage sent to you as a file to do whatever you please if you request it, do you?

[WhiteTiger]

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...-ebde7c39c2e5/

CPS response to defunding.

[troutman]

Two Alberta Mounties face manslaughter charges in shooting death of man in car
https://www.660citynews.com/2020/09/...of-man-in-car/

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...-ebde7c39c2e5/

CPS response to defunding.

Quoting for laziness:

“We are in agreement with the community that better models of systems integration involving health, social services, justice, and policing could produce better outcomes and reduce demand on police,” the report reads.

[Bill Bumface]

I know there is a lot of criticism (lots warranted) in this thread for CPS, but that article shows that while parts of the negative practices from down south bleed into our policing (militarization, intimidation etc), we are still just fundamentally different, and I'm damn glad for it.

[Fuzz]

The Calgary Police Service has set up checkstops during the month of September to crack down on improperly maintained vehicles — and it has prompted a strong reaction from Calgarians on social media.


The Safer Vehicles Initiative is intended to ensure that vehicles meet safety standards and comply with the Traffic Safety Act, according to CPS.


It involves inspecting cars at checkstops for issues such as bald tires, windshield cracks, improperly tinted windows and burned-out tail lights and headlights. About 1,000 vehicles have been stopped so far.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...725362?cmp=rss


This is enforcement I can get behind. I wonder if they are also giving tickets for overly loud exhausts...

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...725362?cmp=rss


This is enforcement I can get behind. I wonder if they are also giving tickets for overly loud exhausts...

I remember seeing that $162 'washer fluid' ticket on Twitter. One of the CPS Social Media constables looked into it and answered. Apparently that vehicle had 3 infractions on it, so it got the one ticket for all three problems, and it was not a ticket for just 'not keeping my windshield washer fluid topped off', as it was presented on Twitter.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...725362?cmp=rss


This is enforcement I can get behind. I wonder if they are also giving tickets for overly loud exhausts...

This will probably disproportionately impact lower income people, and giving Calgarians tickets for cracked windshields seems exceptionally cruel, but safety standards exist for a reason I guess. Hopefully they’re using some nuance here.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

I remember seeing that $162 'washer fluid' ticket on Twitter. One of the CPS Social Media constables looked into it and answered. Apparently that vehicle had 3 infractions on it, so it got the one ticket for all three problems, and it was not a ticket for just 'not keeping my windshield washer fluid topped off', as it was presented on Twitter.

Wait, people lie on social media??? What is this world coming to!

[81MC]

It’s called the ‘Safer’ Vehicles Initiative, not the bylaw initiative.

I can get behind this...sort of. I can’t get behind window tint thing.

Guy with bald tires, poor brakes, shot struts, worn out wheel bearings and ball joints will what? More than likely get a warning about the tires? But a perfectly maintained vehicle with tint gets ticket. Don’t like that.

[zamler]

I don't agree with that at all, what makes a police officer an automotive expert? They are opening the hood and checking things over? What is considered low washer fluid? How much has to be remaining? This is a cash grab.

Also if Alberta was serious about vehicle safety we'd have a mandatory inspections like most places do.

[Ducay]

Cruddy part is I can't imagine those checkstops can do much for the loud exhausts - those are local bylaw infractions, not provincial laws that are covered by the Traffic Safety Act like"busted up ride"/tinting would be. They might be able to catch the idiots with fart cannons dragging on the ground from their ricer-mobiles, but a lot of the exhaust related mods aren't "condition" issues.

[zamler]

"The majority of people stopped don't get tickets"

So 49.99% could be driving away with a ticket.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by zamler

I don't agree with that at all, what makes a police officer an automotive expert? They are opening the hood and checking things over? What is considered low washer fluid? How much has to be remaining? This is a cash grab.

Also if Alberta was serious about vehicle safety we'd have a mandatory inspections like most places do.

You've never seen vehicles with massive tires beyond their wheel arches, no mud flaps, broken lights, bald tires etc? You don't need to be an automotive expert to spot those things.

Are there perhaps issues with a few things they are checking? Maybe, I don't know nearly enough about the program to comment, and neither do you.

And I know this is controversial, but I'm happy about the window tint thing, too. I hate that. Not being able to see where a driver is looking as a pedestrian and cyclist is frustrating and dangerous.

[PepsiFree]

Yeah the window tint thing I have no problem with. People do it with most knowing it's against bylaw. If you get a ticket, that's the risk you took. And this is coming from someone who drove a vehicle with tinted windows and got a ticket. You make the choice, you accept the consequences.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by zamler

"The majority of people stopped don't get tickets"

So 49.99% could be driving away with a ticket.

Don't want a ticket? Don't have a broken down piece of garbage, or make illegal modifications. This isn't complicated.


"Oh no, the police are working to make our roads safer! Screw them!"

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You've never seen vehicles with massive tires beyond their wheel arches, no mud flaps, broken lights, bald tires etc? You don't need to be an automotive expert to spot those things.

What things can be assessed by anyone, and what things require an auto tech. Give me a list. One example, many cars don't come with mudflaps does the officer have a database to check what cars should have them what cars don't?

Are there perhaps issues with a few things they are checking? Maybe, I don't know nearly enough about the program to comment, and neither do you.

Then why the #### are you commenting? What an asinine thing to say.

This is not a program to actually improve safety, as I said to do that we need yearly vehicle inspections. Not a perfect system but it takes a lot of dangerous vehicles off the road. Also, Alberta has NO emissions testing a poorly running engine is horribly polluting. And we have many of those on the road.

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Don't want a ticket? Don't have a broken down piece of garbage, or make illegal modifications. This isn't complicated.


"Oh no, the police are working to make our roads safer! Screw them!"

Right, it is that simple. You either have perfect vehicle or a broken down piece of ####.