09-14-2020, 09:13 PM
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Perhaps a fairer comparison is how the Flames PP was doing once Ward took over up to the trade (ignoring the first 27 games with Peters):
9th best PP, at 23.7%
Still an improvement, but a much better starting point than the 24th best PP under Peters at 15.9%
Edit: ^ Beaten above, but I used the Buffalo game as the starting point instead of the PIT game when the news broke.
Last edited by AC; 09-14-2020 at 09:15 PM.
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09-14-2020, 09:13 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Gus kept Gio from playing big minutes on the PP...so expect the Flames to look for that 4/5 dman who can run the PP...just to keep Gio's minutes down
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09-14-2020, 09:16 PM
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#63
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
because trading a 3rd round pick or him was a bad trade.
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This, among many other bad trades and signings.
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09-14-2020, 09:17 PM
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#64
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simmer2
Gus kept Gio from playing big minutes on the PP...so expect the Flames to look for that 4/5 dman who can run the PP...just to keep Gio's minutes down
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BAW GAWD, THAT'S OLIVER EKMAN-LARSON'S MUSIC!
*glass shatters*
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09-14-2020, 09:27 PM
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#65
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Scoring Winger
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Would rather DeAngelo than OEL
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09-14-2020, 09:34 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
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Alex Pietrangelo
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
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Tyson Barrie
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09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
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#67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Alex Pietrangelo
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
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Tyson Barrie
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As players I agree.
But if Pietrangelo and OEL both carry caphits of $8.25M (for argument's sake with Pietrangelo), and Barrie signs for $5M? I'm not sure.
OEL also costs the assets to acquire of course.
I'd rather sign a 2nd tier Dman and use the savings on F personally.
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09-14-2020, 09:47 PM
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#68
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I'm pretty sure that OEL wouldn't cost assets to acquire. He'd gain you assets for taking his contract on.
I bet almost every team in the league wouldn't even take OEL + a 2023 1st round pick for free if there was no salary retention.
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09-14-2020, 09:48 PM
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#69
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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OEL is not worth $8.25M, but I would have no problem giving it to Pietrangelo-even if it meant potentially losing out on Hall. Pietrangelo is one of the best.
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09-14-2020, 09:51 PM
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#70
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
OEL is not worth $8.25M, but I would have no problem giving it to Pietrangelo-even if it meant potentially losing out on Hall. Pietrangelo is one of the best.
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Let's be realistic. Hall is likely the only top UFA that would consider Calgary, both this off-season, in years past, and in the future.
Calgary is simply too undesirable for most players that have a choice.
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09-14-2020, 09:51 PM
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#71
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Draft Pick
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I think now that we have made a coaching decision. I think you may see things change as
contract talk may increase with many players.
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09-14-2020, 09:55 PM
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#72
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Let's be realistic. Hall is likely the only top UFA that would consider Calgary, both this off-season, in years past, and in the future.
Calgary is simply too undesirable for most players that have a choice.
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I never said I was being realistic. I have no doubt he's not coming here. Jeez.
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09-14-2020, 10:02 PM
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#73
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
I never said I was being realistic. I have no doubt he's not coming here. Jeez.
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Alrighty then.
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09-14-2020, 10:04 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
As players I agree.
But if Pietrangelo and OEL both carry caphits of $8.25M (for argument's sake with Pietrangelo), and Barrie signs for $5M? I'm not sure.
OEL also costs the assets to acquire of course.
I'd rather sign a 2nd tier Dman and use the savings on F personally.
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I’ve been watching YouTube highlights of OEL to warm up to the idea of us eventually acquiring him. I’m intrigued by the idea of an OEL - Andersson pairing with Gio then slotted on the 2nd pair.
I just feel like the smoke is there, and with Gio taking a step back it just makes too much sense if Tree does believe OEL just needs a change of scenery. Big body, hits, has a shot...paired with Andersson? I’d be into it.
...especially if he comes with Kuemper and Hall’s rights.
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09-14-2020, 10:07 PM
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#75
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
I’ve been watching YouTube highlights of OEL to warm up to the idea of us eventually acquiring him. I’m intrigued by the idea of an OEL - Andersson pairing with Gio then slotted on the 2nd pair.
I just feel like the smoke is there, and with Gio taking a step back it just makes too much sense if Tree does believe OEL just needs a change of scenery. Big body, hits, has a shot...paired with Andersson? I’d be into it.
...especially if he comes with Kuemper and Hall’s rights.
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Gio and Hanifin are both LD. Gio has to switch?
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09-14-2020, 10:08 PM
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#76
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Originally Posted by AC
Alrighty then.
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missed opportunity
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09-14-2020, 10:08 PM
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#77
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I think OEL would exceed our expectations based on how he's being talked about here.
His cap hit is just so massive, but if he comes super cheap... I could see it working in theory. Can't even imagine how the trade works though.
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09-14-2020, 10:11 PM
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#78
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
missed opportunity
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What do you mean?
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09-14-2020, 10:13 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
I think OEL would exceed our expectations based on how he's being talked about here.
His cap hit is just so massive, but if he comes super cheap... I could see it working in theory. Can't even imagine how the trade works though.
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I actually think he's not so bad of a player, and I think he would fit in here-salary aside.
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09-14-2020, 10:15 PM
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#80
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What do you mean?
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