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Old 09-11-2020, 04:41 PM   #3561
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Biden is also struggling with Latino voters, which is why the Florida numbers are so close and why Nevada is probably closer than it should. This was a pretty big red flag for Biden during the primaries, too, so I'm not sure why the Democrats aren't doing more to reach out to Latino voters.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...could-cost-him

Yes. It's always been about 30% of the Latino votes goes R. This time it could be more as I read here there are more than a dozen Latino candidates running for congress as R. So if they drive voter turnout, they could vote upticket for Trump.

And sadly, I've said this before, old immigrants crap on new immigrants. FYIGM. I believe that while Latinos may sympathize with illegal immigrants and favor a path to citizenship for those already here, large majorities agree with Trump’s policies regarding law and order at the border.



And finally, Latinos also crap on the Blacks. For most of Trump's term, his racism was focused on Latinos, so Latinos were more likely to be opposed to him. But I think the focus on Black Lives this past few months will lead to more Latino opposition to Democrats.
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Old 09-11-2020, 05:09 PM   #3562
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This also doesn't happen with Saudi approval, so one does hope that it will keep going.
This lasts as long as the Saudis want to keep Iran in check. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, until that enemy is no longer a useful idiot.

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Trump has a very decent foreign policy in many aspects. But, not hard to beat the last 20 years (coincidentally today is the 19th anniversary of 9/11).
Brilliant foreign policy.

Abdication of power in a region giving Russia the greatest sphere of influence. Pulling out of trade agreements with the greatest hope of keeping China in check. Starting trade wars by imposing ridiculous tariffs. Alienating long time allies and almost bringing an end to NATO. Cozying up to dictators and authoritarians (Putin, bin Saud, el-Sisi, Erdogan, Jong Un, Bolsonaro, Duterte, Jinping, and friends). Endless threats against nations.

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Old 09-11-2020, 07:41 PM   #3563
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75-24 on 538 today.

So if you're Biden's team do you skip the debates? Say Biden will take a drug test if Trump releases all his tax returns for the last 10 years and when he doesn't don't do it?

Best case scenario Biden gains a few points if he does well, while the downside seems a lot higher.
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75-24 on 538 today.

So if you're Biden's team do you skip the debates? Say Biden will take a drug test if Trump releases all his tax returns for the last 10 years and when he doesn't don't do it?

Best case scenario Biden gains a few points if he does well, while the downside seems a lot higher.
It would make for an interesting ultimatum. No tax returns, no debate!
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Old 09-11-2020, 08:33 PM   #3566
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It would make for an interesting ultimatum. No tax returns, no debate!

I honestly doubt that Trump would care. He'll just continue to snip from social media and his rallies and bolster his base.


Frankly I couldn't be bothered to watch a debate between those two, neither of them is presidential material to me.
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Must be a award handed out by the Proud Boys or something like that


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I feel like Biden initiating a cancellation of the debates hurts Biden more than it hurts Trump because he initiated it.
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I want this one on Fox

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This lasts as long as the Saudis want to keep Iran in check. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, until that enemy is no longer a useful idiot.

Brilliant foreign policy.

Abdication of power in a region giving Russia the greatest sphere of influence. Pulling out of trade agreements with the greatest hope of keeping China in check. Starting trade wars by imposing ridiculous tariffs. Alienating long time allies and almost bringing an end to NATO. Cozying up to dictators and authoritarians (Putin, bin Saud, el-Sisi, Erdogan, Jong Un, Bolsonaro, Duterte, Jinping, and friends). Endless threats against nations.

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I always forget if you are actually a neo-con or not, then I realize it changes depends on who is President.

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I always forget if you are actually a neo-con or not, then I realize it changes depends on who is President.

I think it would help if you addressed what he is saying rather than who you think he is.
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I think it would help if you addressed what he is saying rather than who you think he is.
Don't you know, that's Azure's schtick? When you can't argue issues, which he never can, he instead tries to reframe the message and make the piano player the enemy of all existence. Trust me. I'm his boogeyman. He blames me fore everything regardless of issue and tries to make it seem like I am inconsistent in my view should I acknowledge the issue has actually evolved. He sits on threads and private messages from 10-15 years ago, and tries to throw them in your face like a gleeful four year old playing checkers when they are able to jump a piece you left open. Like any of us are the same person we were almost two decades ago? He can't and won't argue issues, because he doesn't have the knowledge, depth, or experience to do so. What he knows comes from the intellectual dark web, and he tries to make every issue one you argue on those terms, when they are rarely relevant. He tries to look down on anyone who has educated themselves or has achieved success in their life because he knows he will never achieve the same unless he refocuses himself and practices a massive dollop of introspection, which is beyond him. If you ignore him he'll disappear like he always does when the discussion gets beyond him. He'll take some parting shots, like I'm sure he will here, but don't let it bother you, as it doesn't bother me. I sleep soundly knowing he looks in his closet and underneath his bed each night making sure I'm not there to steal his soul.

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This tweet by Lindsey absolutely made my day.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1304873445637922818
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He can't be that dense, which begs the question, what sort of response is he expecting?
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This tweet by Lindsey absolutely made my day.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1304873445637922818
I wonder if his returns showed right-offs for knee-pads.
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I wonder if his returns showed right-offs for knee-pads.
I'm guessing a lot of pool boy payments in there, even if he doesnt have a pool
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Can't believe I have to post this as somewhat serious news, but when Stone is the guy that should be in prison right now but got pardoned, makes appearances on InfoWars but also is buddies with the President this actually is news. Sadly.

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Stone argued that “the ballots in Nevada on election night should be seized by federal marshalls and taken from the state” because “they are completely corrupted” and falsely said that “we can prove voter fraud in the absentees right now.” He specifically called for Trump to have absentee ballots seized in Clark County, Nevada, an area that leans Democratic. Stone went on to claim that “the votes from Nevada should not be counted; they are already flooded with illegals” and baselessly suggested that former Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) should be arrested and that Trump should consider nationalizing Nevada’s state police force.

Beyond Nevada, Stone recommended that Trump consider several actions to retain his power. Stone recommended that Trump appoint former Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA) as a special counsel “with the specific task of forming an Election Day operation using the FBI, federal marshals, and Republican state officials across the country to be prepared to file legal objections and if necessary to physically stand in the way of criminal activity.”

Stone also urged Trump to consider declaring “martial law” or invoking the Insurrection Act and then using his powers to arrest Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Apple CEO Tim Cook, “the Clintons” and “anybody else who can be proven to be involved in illegal activity.”
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That is absolutely terrifying. Lord help us all if Trump even considers this for a second.
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That is absolutely terrifying. Lord help us all if Trump even considers this for a second.

Oh, he'll definitely consider it. He and his cronies have probably already been planning for it for months.
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That is absolutely terrifying. Lord help us all if Trump even considers this for a second.
Stone, a former trump advisor, convicted felon, later commuted by the president? Trump considering it? Of course. You gotta think it’s in Trump’s mind.
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