2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[ignite09]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Hanifin-Andersson
Valimaki-Dumba
Gio-depth D
Yelesin.

Plus mackey and pool man on the farm. And Lerby, and Kinvaall. And Valiev.

And you can add that to you forward group for under the cap?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by colbym72

Has there ever been any indication that Buffalo is open to trading Cozens? He is a pretty high end prospect

Nope, and it would be shocking if they did move him. Their biggest need is a #2 centre behind Eichel, and they have a blue-chip prospect in Cozens who projects to be a #1/2 centre.

I guess they could be wildly desperate and incompetent - it is the Sabres after all. But I wouldn’t bank on it.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Nope, and it would be shocking if they did move him. Their biggest need is a #2 centre behind Eichel, and they have a blue-chip prospect in Cozens who projects to be a #1/2 centre.

I guess they could be wildly desperate and incompetent - it is the Sabres after all. But I wouldn’t bank on it.

Cozens projects to maybe be a top 6 centre while Eichel has spent half a decade losing. Is it really that incompetent to move a future piece for a now piece if it appeases their franchise player?

Most of the Cozens discussion has revolves around Monahan who is a top line center that will be better suited for a number 2 role.

Sabre’s are absolutely desperate to make the playoffs. Trading a 19 year old for a 26 year old is exactly the type of move they should be making

[Harry Lime]

The interesting thing about Minnesota is that their primary need, completely exposed in the playoffs, is for a top six centre. Staal isn't that guy anymore, Koivu is likely retiring and Ek is going to be a very good middle six centre.

They can also absorb the loss of a defenseman with no defense coming back, they are very deep in that position at every level. They have a diverse prospect pool.

This is my dark horse trade :

Sean Monahan
for
Matt Dumba and Ryan Donato and Nico Sturm

This might look like an overpay by the Wild, but I think that Monahan has more value on the trade market than Gaudreau. Dumba comes over and solidifies the RD position, and Calgary gets two shots at the centre position going forward, with a shoot first player and a defensive specialist.

Do you believe that Backlund/Bennett have it in them to be a 1/2 punch until one of Donato/Sturm/Petterson/Dube/Johnny replacement pushes them out?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Do you believe that Backlund/Bennett have it in them to be a 1/2 punch until one of Donato/Sturm/Petterson/Dube/Johnny replacement pushes them out?

I'm the biggest Bennett fan out there - and while the fandom part of my brain screams yes, the reality is absolutely not.

Backlund and Bennett can be a 2-3 so long as they're rolling with high quality wingers, but if they are your 1-2 I can't imagine the team would be doing anything other than setting up their own doom.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The interesting thing about Minnesota is that their primary need, completely exposed in the playoffs, is for a top six centre. Staal isn't that guy anymore, Koivu is likely retiring and Ek is going to be a very good middle six centre.

They can also absorb the loss of a defenseman with no defense coming back, they are very deep in that position at every level. They have a diverse prospect pool.

This is my dark horse trade :

Sean Monahan
for
Matt Dumba and Ryan Donato and Nico Sturm

This might look like an overpay by the Wild, but I think that Monahan has more value on the trade market than Gaudreau. Dumba comes over and solidifies the RD position, and Calgary gets two shots at the centre position going forward, with a shoot first player and a defensive specialist.

Do you believe that Backlund/Bennett have it in them to be a 1/2 punch until one of Donato/Sturm/Petterson/Dube/Johnny replacement pushes them out?

I like all the players you suggested, but Donato and Sturm are complimentary players. I think there's bigger fish out there if we were going to trade Mony. That C position looks weak without him.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I like all the players you suggested, but Donato and Sturm are complimentary players. I think there's bigger fish out there if we were going to trade Mony. That C position looks weak without him.

For the last year and a half, the best centre in Calgary has been Backlund. We might as well admit it and embrace it. The only time when it wasn't Backlund, it was Bennett, in the playoffs.

Your Calgary Flames.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Good god the Monahan hate around he is unbearable and just so demonstrably false. He's the best center the Flames have had since Joe Nieuwendyk wore the Flaming C and people are trying to run him out of town for a prospect that "might" develop into the same player that Monahan currently is. Monahan's two way play is grossly under rated. He's the Flames best faceoff man and is that finisher in the middle we've long wanted. Oh, but he's not Connor McHobo or Nathan Mc####face, so we have to run him out of town. Get real. Even in his worst year he was still better than any Flames center. But that would be so Calgary. Run a core player out of town because they have a bad shortened season when nothing went right for the team, and throw all your eggs in the baskets of players who did worse or didn't show up at all during the season, but had a great mini-tournament. SMH

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by New Era

Good god the Monahan hate around he is unbearable and just so demonstrably false. He's the best center the Flames have had since Joe Nieuwendyk wore the Flaming C and people are trying to run him out of town for a prospect that "might" develop into the same player that Monahan currently is. Monahan's two way play is grossly under rated. He's the Flames best faceoff man and is that finisher in the middle we've long wanted. Oh, but he's not Connor McHobo or Nathan Mc####face, so we have to run him out of town. Get real. Even in his worst year he was still better than any Flames center. But that would be so Calgary. Run a core player out of town because they have a bad shortened season when nothing went right for the team, and throw all your eggs in the baskets of players who did worse or didn't show up at all during the season, but had a great mini-tournament. SMH

I appreciate this post because everything you’ve said is legit.
And personally I’m in the trade Johnny keep Sean camp myself.

However this core (which Sean is a big part of) is not getting it done as we’ve seen the last 4 years.

So with that being said, I’d be interested to hear what you feel we should do to shake up the core or what changes you think the Flames need to make to get us to the next level of trading away your score and shuffling it up is not in your ideal beat interest.

Being serious, I’m curious because I want to feel the same way but it’s hard to trust this core again in my mind.

[VilleN]

After thinking about it for a while, I believe we have to go for it with this core. Get a better coach, add a player like Hall if you can. If a hockey trade that makes sense is available, go for it. But this is our window, like it or not.

Everything is so unpredictable. Dallas didn’t seem to be a threat, a bubble team was pretty much how they were looked at until now. The Isles, I certainly didn’t see them in the ECF this year. St. Louis, cup champs last year, first round disappointment this year. The Avs, on paper should be the powerhouse in the west, eliminated by an aging, bubble team in Dallas.

In 2018-2019 had the Flames been hot in the second half rather than the first, who knows what could have happened?

I think we’ve got to ride this core out, see if the stars align in the playoffs and we can make a deep run. With the parity in the league that’s what most teams are waiting for.

[powderjunkie]

BUF is pretty much in hail-mary mode at this point. But, I think that means they keep Cozens and hope he's a wunderkind. Everything else is on the table, especially 8OA.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by New Era

Good god the Monahan hate around he is unbearable and just so demonstrably false. He's the best center the Flames have had since Joe Nieuwendyk wore the Flaming C and people are trying to run him out of town for a prospect that "might" develop into the same player that Monahan currently is. Monahan's two way play is grossly under rated. He's the Flames best faceoff man and is that finisher in the middle we've long wanted. Oh, but he's not Connor McHobo or Nathan Mc####face, so we have to run him out of town. Get real. Even in his worst year he was still better than any Flames center. But that would be so Calgary. Run a core player out of town because they have a bad shortened season when nothing went right for the team, and throw all your eggs in the baskets of players who did worse or didn't show up at all during the season, but had a great mini-tournament. SMH

There is a lot of frustration with mony on this board. Agree that he has been the best center since niewy, but that’s an indictment on the organization and their lack of ability to acquire/develop an elite 1C. I can’t speak for others but I would cringe when the top line would be on the ice after we scored and a lackadaisical shift from the top line results in a goal in our net and kills any momentum.

Mony was -16 this season, and good two way players don’t have those kind of stats. He’s not present on the pk and lindholm is the defensive conscience on the top line. If mony isn’t scoring, he doesn’t bring much else. When he’s hot offensively, he’s one of the best. But a top line C should bring more than scoring and unfortunately the stats show he’s pretty one dimensional. He doesn’t appear to be able to impose his will on a game, which you should expect from a 1C. Question begs then, is he a 1C?

I believe that mony and Johnny hate losing, but I have my doubts that they will adjust their respective games to do anything to win (ie blocking shots). Petterson showed what a 1C should do in the playoffs with some of the backchecks against Vegas. That’s what I would like to see from our top players but to my point, are they prepared to adjust their game to help the team win or is it just about padding individual offensive stats?

[Vinny01]

I agree Monahan is underrated on this board and is our best center in the last 25 years.

I guess it all depends on the direction the organization wants to go. A Monahan for Cozens trade is a big risk for the Flames but the deal opens up an expansion slot and $5.45M in cap space.

If the Flames pulled off a Monahan+19 for Cozens+8 and then Gaudreau for Zacha, 7th, Ty Smith those would be massive for retooling the team. It opens up $10M in cap space and brings back Zacha (0.5 ppg as a 23 year old, former 6th overall in 2015), Ty Smith (former first round expansion exempt D), Dylan Cozens (7th overall pick in 2019 big fast center), and the 7th and 8th picks in the draft (2 of Raymond, Drysdale, Perfetti, Rossi, Holtz, Sanderson).

The $10M in cap space along with the $17M they have can sign Hall, a top flight goalie and a Dman.

[JTech780]

Originally Posted by New Era

Good god the Monahan hate around he is unbearable and just so demonstrably false. He's the best center the Flames have had since Joe Nieuwendyk wore the Flaming C and people are trying to run him out of town for a prospect that "might" develop into the same player that Monahan currently is. Monahan's two way play is grossly under rated. He's the Flames best faceoff man and is that finisher in the middle we've long wanted. Oh, but he's not Connor McHobo or Nathan Mc####face, so we have to run him out of town. Get real. Even in his worst year he was still better than any Flames center. But that would be so Calgary. Run a core player out of town because they have a bad shortened season when nothing went right for the team, and throw all your eggs in the baskets of players who did worse or didn't show up at all during the season, but had a great mini-tournament. SMH

I get where you are coming from, and you are right Monahan is the best center this team has had since Nieuwendyk. That being said he isn't a number 1 center and this team isn't going to win the Cup with him as the number 1 center.

His two way play isn't under rated, its rated correctly he is a one way player, he lacks the skating ability and determination to be an impact player in his own zone.

Sean Monahan's best compareable is Jeff Carter, good goal scoring centers, and you can win with them but not as your number 1 center. If you want to win Monahan is your 2nd line center, and you need someone better as your number 1 center.

The problem is you need to get lucky and you need a high picks to increase your chances of finding a number 1 center.

Trading Gaudreau and Monahan helps increase your chances of finding a true number 1 center.

Also for the record McDavid will never win the Cup as long as he refuses to play defense, he is only interested in playing when he has the puck.

[BigErnSalute_16]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

At 28, this next year is a make or break year for the affable fella. I love cheering for Ritter because he’s as quirky a goalie as you’ll find, but he needs to hammer out his conditioning/health issues/mental stuff that sees his game fall apart after he hits about 30 games played.

I do think this organizationally has fatally screwed up in how they’ve handled him though. Rittich should have been the guy last season in the playoffs, and should have been the guy this season in the playoffs.

If you believe in a player, you take some lumps as you go. Instead? They cast him to the background in favour of “post-apex” goalies who let you down in the end anyways - and both were likely gone after the playoffs anyways.

Strongly disagree with the bolded. Both Smith and Rittich were inconsistent last year and as a goalie who was just starting his career, it made sense to go with the veteran for game one. Which was a good bet cuz Smith was good. Maybe Rittich would have been too but that's not at the fault of the coaching staff it was the right decision.

This year, Talbot was playing better down the stretch and if the season would have continued strong odds he was going to be the starter anyways. But that doesn't matter because there was a three month break. During that time Talbot was on the ice every day staying sharp and it showed in camp where they gave both goalies a chance to earn the start and Talbot was just better. He earned it, Rittich didn't and once again it was the right choice by the coaching staff, because Talbot was very good, except for game 6, but I'll take 5 stud games for every bad game every time.

It's not on anybody but Rittich why he hasn't started playoff games. And I'm not saying he doesn't have the potential or wouldn't have done just as good, but he hasn't earned a playoff start yet. There is something holding him back and the way I see it he has one more season to figure it out with the flames or he will never be more than a good backup/ average starter.

I am, however, a strong believer that Jordan Sigalet needs to go. Wheter Rittich's problem is conditioning, mental side of the game or what have you, it's sigalets job to identify it and find a way to help the goalie overcome it. And I get the argument that sigalet hasn't had studs to work with ever but no goalie has actually improved consistently while they've been here even marginally so what the hell are we paying that guy for if there is no actual tangible positive outcome for what he's doing?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Royle9

So with that being said, I’d be interested to hear what you feel we should do to shake up the core or what changes you think the Flames need to make to get us to the next level of trading away your score and shuffling it up is not in your ideal beat interest.

Being serious, I’m curious because I want to feel the same way but it’s hard to trust this core again in my mind.

I agree that change has to be made. I will be extremely disenchanted of this team comes back with the same core roster and coaching staff. My thoughts on what needs to be done, and why.

1. Bring in another senior hockey guy in Burke's old position. Another set of eyes and someone with some vision.

2. Put Treliving on notice and on a short leash. "The process" has to happen a lot quicker and more effectively.

3. Hire a good coach with a proven track record. No more of this cutting corners and thinking you're the smartest guy in the room by bringing in a huy with "new ideas" or "a believer in analytics." Get a guy that has a track record of getting the most out of his players and can adapt. Get a coach who believe in playing the up tempo transition game. There are a number of candidates out there, so get it done.

4. Find a team identity. I don't think this team has had one since 2004. The Flames need to be up tempo and relentless in their fore check to be successful in the league, so find a coach and players who have the ability to make that happen. That needs to be the identity.

5. Address the core. Recognize who your players are going forward and start making moves to support that core. Personally, I am a massive Johnny Hockey fan. I have not been this attached to a player since Loob wore the Flaming C. But I recognize that Johnny disappears in big games, especially when the physicality ratchets up. I've seen too much of it, and as a result, I believe he has to go. The team needs to get bigger and tougher to play against, and Gaudreau is the antithesis of that belief. So he has to be the core player that departs. I also believe he has the most value of any player on the Flames roster and will bring a return that improves the team now and in the long term.

6. Understand the intent of free agency is to create greater depth in an area allowing you to make a deal to plug holes that are so obvious. If Taylor Hall is really willing to sign here, and Treliving should have an idea by now, then trade for his rights and get the deal done. That will allow you to move one of our existing LWs to fill other holes. If this is not the case, then the team has to be willing to be more flexible and target other players that fill holes but still allow you to make a deal of that core player. I still think that you can sign Toffoli and still be able to make the other deals happen.

7. Trade Gaudreau for a young up and coming center as the center piece, a good young defender that could play in the top four, and then be willing to take on salary to fill other gaps. The player I keep coming back to is Morgan Frost, but I understand the attraction of Dylan Cozens. I prefer Frost over Cozens because Frost has a more complete game, is more a playmaker, and provides a very different look that Cozens does. Cozens reminds me so much of Monahan when he played for Ottawa. That's a good thing, but a bad thing at the same time. I think this team is too similar from line to line, which makes it easy to defend against. I would ultimately be happy with either player, but I think Frost will be the better and more accomplished player over his career. Again, this is just preference.

My trade preference depends on free agency and who we are able to grab. If it is Hall then I would move Gaudreau and Kylington to Philly for Frost, Myers, and Voracek, but that boat may have sailed. Myers was a stud for Philly this season and especially in the post season. So that may mean we shift things a bit and go for Frost, Gostisbehere, and Ratcliffe. We take a little less salary, so our package does not quite blow our hair back as much, but we get really good value. We get that center, a puck moving defenseman, and a massive LW project who has shown the ability to finish.

The other option is the Flames go in on a cheaper free agent and target Tofolli to fill that scorer on the right side. That would then allow the Flames to change their expectations and be willing to take back another LW in swap. Gaudreau, Kylington, Pelletier or our 1st for Frost, Gostisbehere, and Konecny (I don't think they are happy with his performance). Going this road might provide bigger bang for the buck and allow a little more flexibility in the free agent market as well.

8. Make it abundantly clear that this is not a country club. That moving Johnny was the first move of possibly many to come. Be prepared to move Backlund. Let the players know you need step up and be the player you think you are if you are going to stay here.

9. Find a goaltender. Make a decision, and go all in on a goaltender, one that can also act as a mentor for the younger tenders in the system. My personal choice is Fleury, but that would require some trade magic. Rittich and Ryan for Fleury (25% retained)? Cost neutral in the first year, then Vegas saves in year two and the Flames will have a year to work out the budget, although expansion may help in that regard.

Those are my thoughts. Lots of moving pieces, but it is doable. I think the timing is right to make some big moves and retool. As long as Treliving doesn't get locked up in "the process" and learns how to make a decision, this can get done.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by New Era

Good god the Monahan hate around he is unbearable and just so demonstrably false. He's the best center the Flames have had since Joe Nieuwendyk wore the Flaming C and people are trying to run him out of town for a prospect that "might" develop into the same player that Monahan currently is. Monahan's two way play is grossly under rated. He's the Flames best faceoff man and is that finisher in the middle we've long wanted. Oh, but he's not Connor McHobo or Nathan Mc####face, so we have to run him out of town. Get real. Even in his worst year he was still better than any Flames center. But that would be so Calgary. Run a core player out of town because they have a bad shortened season when nothing went right for the team, and throw all your eggs in the baskets of players who did worse or didn't show up at all during the season, but had a great mini-tournament. SMH

Player 1 in 2019/2020:
CF%: 49.65
SF%: 47.63
GF%: 48.57
SCF%: 51.76
HDCF%: 51.46
HDGF%: 40.00
Off. Zone Start %: 50.82

Player 2 in 2019/2020:
CF%: 49.52
SF%: 48.50
GF%: 44.05
xGF%: 48.03
SCF%: 46.93
HDCF%: 48.02
HDGF%: 43.90
Off. Zone Start %: 60.06

Player 3 in 2019/2020:
CF%: 51.11
SF%: 50.57
GF%: 52.13
xGF%: 50.68
SCF%: 50.63
HDCF%: 53.43
HDGF%: 57.78
Off. Zone Start %: 53.5

Player 4 in 2019/2020:
CF%: 49.07
SF%: 48.35
GF%: 58.82
xGF%: 49.17
SCF%: 50.00
HDCF%: 49.27
HDGF%: 57.69
Off. Zone Start %: 43.69

Player 1 in 2018/2019:
CF%: 53.52
SF%: 52.71
GF%: 47.89
xGF%: 53.06
SCF%: 54.44
HDCF%: 55.52
HDGF%: 58.82
Off. Zone Start %: 60.07

Player 2 in 2018/2019:
CF%: 53.71
SF%: 52.18
GF%: 52.85
xGF%: 52.68
SCF%: 51.94
HDCF%: 52.63
HDGF%: 55.71
Off. Zone Start %: 60.82

Player 3 in 2018/2019:
CF%: 55.33
SF%: 55.36
GF%: 61.29
xGF%: 53.18
SCF%: 54.51
HDCF%: 52.07
HDGF%: 59.26
Off. Zone Start %: 57.82

Player 4 in 2018/2019:
CF%: 54.6
SF%: 54.37
GF%: 62.96
xGF%: 55.22
SCF%: 55.19
HDCF%: 56.87
HDGF%: 65.71
Off. Zone Start %: 47.74

If you were to rank these sets of data, how would you rank the data in each year?

Funny exercise for me. Pointed out some changes that I didn't necessarily think I'd see year to year.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by New Era

I agree that change has to be made. I will be extremely disenchanted of this team comes back with the same core roster and coaching staff. My thoughts on what needs to be done, and why.

1. Bring in another senior hockey guy in Burke's old position. Another set of eyes and someone with some vision.

2. Put Treliving on notice and on a short leash. "The process" has to happen a lot quicker and more effectively.

3. Hire a good coach with a proven track record. No more of this cutting corners and thinking you're the smartest guy in the room by bringing in a huy with "new ideas" or "a believer in analytics." Get a guy that has a track record of getting the most out of his players and can adapt. Get a coach who believe in playing the up tempo transition game. There are a number of candidates out there, so get it done.

4. Find a team identity. I don't think this team has had one since 2004. The Flames need to be up tempo and relentless in their fore check to be successful in the league, so find a coach and players who have the ability to make that happen. That needs to be the identity.

5. Address the core. Recognize who your players are going forward and start making moves to support that core. Personally, I am a massive Johnny Hockey fan. I have not been this attached to a player since Loob wore the Flaming C. But I recognize that Johnny disappears in big games, especially when the physicality ratchets up. I've seen too much of it, and as a result, I believe he has to go. The team needs to get bigger and tougher to play against, and Gaudreau is the antithesis of that belief. So he has to be the core player that departs. I also believe he has the most value of any player on the Flames roster and will bring a return that improves the team now and in the long term.

6. Understand the intent of free agency is to create greater depth in an area allowing you to make a deal to plug holes that are so obvious. If Taylor Hall is really willing to sign here, and Treliving should have an idea by now, then trade for his rights and get the deal done. That will allow you to move one of our existing LWs to fill other holes. If this is not the case, then the team has to be willing to be more flexible and target other players that fill holes but still allow you to make a deal of that core player. I still think that you can sign Toffoli and still be able to make the other deals happen.

7. Trade Gaudreau for a young up and coming center as the center piece, a good young defender that could play in the top four, and then be willing to take on salary to fill other gaps. The player I keep coming back to is Morgan Frost, but I understand the attraction of Dylan Cozens. I prefer Frost over Cozens because Frost has a more complete game, is more a playmaker, and provides a very different look that Cozens does. Cozens reminds me so much of Monahan when he played for Ottawa. That's a good thing, but a bad thing at the same time. I think this team is too similar from line to line, which makes it easy to defend against. I would ultimately be happy with either player, but I think Frost will be the better and more accomplished player over his career. Again, this is just preference.

My trade preference depends on free agency and who we are able to grab. If it is Hall then I would move Gaudreau and Kylington to Philly for Frost, Myers, and Voracek, but that boat may have sailed. Myers was a stud for Philly this season and especially in the post season. So that may mean we shift things a bit and go for Frost, Gostisbehere, and Ratcliffe. We take a little less salary, so our package does not quite blow our hair back as much, but we get really good value. We get that center, a puck moving defenseman, and a massive LW project who has shown the ability to finish.

The other option is the Flames go in on a cheaper free agent and target Tofolli to fill that scorer on the right side. That would then allow the Flames to change their expectations and be willing to take back another LW in swap. Gaudreau, Kylington, Pelletier or our 1st for Frost, Gostisbehere, and Konecny (I don't think they are happy with his performance). Going this road might provide bigger bang for the buck and allow a little more flexibility in the free agent market as well.

8. Make it abundantly clear that this is not a country club. That moving Johnny was the first move of possibly many to come. Be prepared to move Backlund. Let the players know you need step up and be the player you think you are if you are going to stay here.

9. Find a goaltender. Make a decision, and go all in on a goaltender, one that can also act as a mentor for the younger tenders in the system. My personal choice is Fleury, but that would require some trade magic. Rittich and Ryan for Fleury (25% retained)? Cost neutral in the first year, then Vegas saves in year two and the Flames will have a year to work out the budget, although expansion may help in that regard.

Those are my thoughts. Lots of moving pieces, but it is doable. I think the timing is right to make some big moves and retool. As long as Treliving doesn't get locked up in "the process" and learns how to make a decision, this can get done.

I don't disagree with a lot - but I don't like that Gaudreau trade. Voracek is an absolute non-starter for me - Myers and Frost aren't at the level that it would make me take on that deal.

Definitely agree with the need to address goaltending and coaching - I think these are the biggest needs. 2019/2020 was a down year for almost every player on the roster so I really don't want the team running a player out of a town because of one off year, but if some trends have been established over a long enough period of time then maybe it's worth looking at. That's where the eye turns to Monahan more than it does to Gaudreau for me.

Monahan is really struggling on executing when it comes to becoming a 200 foot player. He's saying all the right things, but his performance on ice might just be telling us that he can't do it. If we do come back with Gaudreau and Monahan here, I think a big experiment should be splitting them up for extended periods to see what happens to their games. I think that may go poorly for Monahan, but it also may give him the opportunity to get more touches while getting him involved in more of the play giving him the opportunity to be more than just a finisher for whatever magic Johnny can cook up.

[Heavy Jack]

Monahan + Ryan + Jankowski rights + 2nd

For

Domi + Danault + 16th

3 centres out two Centers in plus another mid 1st. Danault would be a really good add at Center, would instantly become our best face off guy and plays a complete 200 ft game; I think Gaudreau would benefit greatly playing with a center like this.

Gaudreau - Danault - Lindholm
Hall - Domi - Tkachuk
Bennett - Backlund - Mangiapane
Lucic - Dube - Phillips

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Monahan + Ryan + Jankowski rights + 2nd

For

Domi + Danault + 16th

3 centres out two Centers in plus another mid 1st. Danault would be a really good add at Center, would instantly become our best face off guy and plays a complete 200 ft game; I think Gaudreau would benefit greatly playing with a center like this.

Gaudreau - Danault - Lindholm
Hall - Domi - Tkachuk
Bennett - Backlund - Mangiapane
Lucic - Dube - Phillips

Monahan is a better C than either of those guys. Fight me.