This is the second time I have seen a proposal around Cozens and Money. Did I miss something or is this just a trade suggestion?
I think it just originated on here.
The alternative angle is the "Flames are in a window now" view, which has us spend picks/prospects on Eichel, instead of sending the Sabres the support for their "window" to start.
Personally, I'm tired of trading away high picks and prospects.
But there's two sides to each trade so who knows what the Sabres are thinking.
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Trading Monahan for Cozens feels like the meme "A boat's a boat, but the mystery box could be anything, even a boat!".
I like what I've heard about Cozens, but if you're expecting him to play physical (the common complaint against Monahan), is this really the kid to do it?
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Offseason ideas based on Todd Cordell's "Five items that should be on the Flames' off-season to-do list"
1) Find a long-term centre
Gaudreau to Montreal for Max Domi, 2020 1st, 2021 1st, Noah Juulsen (to support this trade idea, I cite the consistent rumours of Domi's availability and this article by Ering Engels, which suggests Domi is better at centre and Juulsen is healthy: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...g-centre-wing/)
2) Trade Mark Giordano
Giordano for Jack Studnicka, 2021 1st (sounds like the Bruins will lose LD Torey Krug)
He signs Demelo for 3 x 3.5 and forgets him in the lineup lol; must have had a terrible camp
I read some articles suggesting a lot of teams want him, so I thought there would be a low chance of getting him and meant to take him out, but then I forgot to do so after I changed the lineup.
Trading Monahan for Cozens feels like the meme "A boat's a boat, but the mystery box could be anything, even a boat!".
I like what I've heard about Cozens, but if you're expecting him to play physical (the common complaint against Monahan), is this really the kid to do it?
I worked with his dad years ago in the Yukon, he is a spitting image of his old man.
Offseason ideas based on Todd Cordell's "Five items that should be on the Flames' off-season to-do list"
1) Find a long-term centre
Gaudreau to Montreal for Max Domi, 2020 1st, 2021 1st, Noah Juulsen (to support this trade idea, I cite the consistent rumours of Domi's availability and this article by Ering Engels, which suggests Domi is better at centre and Juulsen is healthy: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...g-centre-wing/)
This lineup may be worse, but the Flames reset with picks and prospects to reload the cupboards.
I'm warmer to the idea of the MTL rumor if it involves 2 firsts. Juulsen is a question mark of course.
Going to caveat the following with the point that I think Tkachuk and Domi on the same line with a puck controlling playmaker would be amazing...
The "Find a number 1 center" point is odd though as I have severe doubts that Domi is the answer at #1C. I'd personally rather put Dube there than Domi, and that's still a really bad plan.
I'd view a trade like this more of a restock and hope some picks pan out than "we're solving the #1C issue". Unless they're saying a shotgun approach with the picks could become one.
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I’d personally love to keep Gaudreau as I’m a huge fan. But unless the Flames are going to trade for an elite #1 two way center who can insulate Gaudreau in the playoffs, I just don’t see how holding onto him is going to work out. He’s at flight risk and elite #1 puck dominant centers don’t grow on trees, so basically we’d have to draft him.
As long as the team can find a suitable replacement, I’m fine with moving Gaudreau for the assets we will surely accumulate. But Treliving has to make the right decisions this summer because in my opinion, it’ll make our break his career here. This can’t be another 2013 or 2014 fiasco where the Flames ended up with nothing tangible for the Iggy/Bouwmeester trades. Treliving absolutely has to be right.
The Flames are barely a playoff team, so any move has to actually make this team better both in playoffs and the regular season. When Gaudreau is on, he basically carries this team to most of their winning streaks. So if the Flames lose out on this trade, there’s no guarantee that this team even makes the playoffs next season which could mean the end of Treliving’s time here as Flames’ GM.
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I also think the Rangers can somehow make a johnny trade work for them and the Flames as well. Pavel Buchnevich comes to mind in a package.
Not that it's likely at all, but I've wondered what it'd take for the Flames to pry the #1OA pick out of the Rangers.
Gaudreau, 19OA, ????
I'm in the likely minority though that if this went down, I'd be drafting Byfield. For teams without the luxury of a definite #1C, he's definitely going to be one.
That said, I don't see how a trade with LA would work, Kings would much rather the pick.
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Not that it's likely at all, but I've wondered what it'd take for the Flames to pry the #1OA pick out of the Rangers.
Gaudreau, 19OA, ????
I'm in the likely minority though that if this went down, I'd be drafting Byfield. For teams without the luxury of a definite #1C, he's definitely going to be one.
That said, I don't see how a trade with LA would work, Kings would much rather the pick.
He might be one, or he might not.
I always find this weird, people think just because you draft a centre in the top 3 or top 5, that you have your #1 center. That’s (unfortunately) not how it works. In the 10 years including 2016 draft and prior (using that cutoff to give players a few years to reach a high level of play), 8 of the centres drafted in the top 5 did not become undisputed #1 centres (whether that means they topped out as good #2s, third liners, switched to wing, or didn’t stick on a team at all).
Byfield might become a #1 center, but it’s nowhere close to definite.
Same goes for the people want to trade for Cozens. If we’re lucky, he becomes as good as Monahan. If we hit the absolute jackpot, he’s better. But in all likelihood he does not reach either of those levels. Potential is not a guarantee. We should have learned that with surefire #1 center Sam Bennett.
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