2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I'll lose it if we let Don Maloney meddle in any sort of offer for OEL and his atrocious cap hit.

Isn't "meddling" in trades and other player acquisitions basically his job? You know, as an AGM?

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[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I would do this.

Well we can all thank Christ you are not BT.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Isn't "meddling" in trades and other player acquisitions basically his job? You know, as an AGM?

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It is, that's why I said it.

It's the (ironic) fact its OEL was drafted while Maloney was GM of Arizona so it would be a prototypical Flames move to let him sell Tre (the assistant GM to Maloney in 2009) on this acquisition and leave the Flames in a terrible position.

So highly probable we give up a 1st and something for one of the worst contracts in the league.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Atodaso

And Calgary traded that first for Dougie who turned into Hanifin/Lindholm. Not too bad, but could have been one of Barzal/Chabot/Connor/Svechnikov/Konecny/Boeser.

Point still stands, but that’s a different Svechnikov. Andrei’s older brother Evgeny who has 4 points in 20 games to his name.

That was a miss of a pick by Detroit.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Royle9

It is, that's why I said it.

It's the (ironic) fact its OEL was drafted while Maloney was GM of Arizona so it would be a prototypical Flames move to let him sell Tre (the assistant GM to Maloney in 2009) on this acquisition and leave the Flames in a terrible position.

So highly probable we give up a 1st and something for one of the worst contracts in the league.

Highly probable? Treliving and Maloney didn’t sign sign that contract, they aren’t idiots.

This was nothing more that radio guys playing fantasy GM. This isn’t highly probable at all.

[Atodaso]

Originally Posted by bax

Point still stands, but that’s a different Svechnikov. Andrei’s older brother Evgeny who has 4 points in 20 games to his name.

That was a miss of a pick by Detroit.

Ahh yes, my bad. I just scanned the surnames when going down the list of potentials. Had they not have traded the pick I assumed they would have ended up with Chabot.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

That is a really short-sited view.

Yes, Gio had a bad year. But look a the circumstances - pretty tough situation for a 37 year old. And people have down years, it happens.

But if a team dumped guys after bad years, they would be perpetually selling low on assets. Probably the dumbest asset mgmt strategy there is. What organization does this all the time? That's right, the No Goods.

Let's say that you're right, and it turns out that Gio has in fact fallen off a cliff. He has 2 years left on his contract. If you keep him and slide him down to the 2nd or 3rd pair, you have a servicable bottom 4 guy, and his contract goes away in 2 seasons.

But if you panic and dump him....

I agree with OEL, wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

However, with Giordano I disagree. Flames aren't in a win now mode and shouldn't be pretending they are. They need to get as much back as they can for Giordano while the Norris season is still relevant. Flames need to maximize value, now. He's not a 25 year old, who had an off year.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by bax

Highly probable? Treliving and Maloney didn’t sign sign that contract, they aren’t idiots.

This was nothing more that radio guys playa fantasy GM. This isn’t highly probable at all.

Sorry I should have disclosed the sarcastic tone when typing that.

I'd hope they wouldn't, I hope they're smarter.

But you can never put things like that past the flames when it comes to questionable moves.

[schteve_d]

I am utterly amazed that the OEL discussion has gone on for as long as it has in this thread. There's literally pages of it.

That would be a ridiculously stupid move for Calgary to take on that contract. God help us if Tre is interested in taking that on.

[Crown Royal]

Did I miss the announcement of some contest about who can say the dumbest things? Because if not, some of you must look up to Mike Milbury and the Oilers.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Sorry I should have disclosed the sarcastic tone when typing that.

I'd hope they wouldn't, I hope they're smarter.

But you can never put things like that past the flames when it comes to questionable moves.

Ahhh that’s my bad. With a sarcastic tone your post makes a lot more sense!

[David Struch]

Oliver Ekman-Larsson will be 36 at the end of this contract, same age as Giordano now but we have him signed until he's 38 years old.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/...-ekman-larsson

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Oliver Ekman-Larsson will be 36 at the end of this contract, same age as Giordano now but we have him signed until he's 38 years old.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/...-ekman-larsson

This is why I'd be OK with swapping the two of them if Arizona wants to get out of that financial commitment.

But I sure as hell don't want to include anything of value in the deal. It's a money and cap saving transaction for them, a get younger on the blue line move for us.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

This is why I'd be OK with swapping the two of them if Arizona wants to get out of that financial commitment.

But I sure as hell don't want to include anything of value in the deal. It's a money and cap saving transaction for them, a get younger on the blue line move for us.

I could see this happening if its a 1 for 1 swap (NO 1ST ROUND PICK) and Arizona makes the dollars on OEL's contract 6.75M for us just so that it can get out of some term. That's the only way I MIGHT do this. Even then, I think OEL might be overrated.

[dammage79]

I think the Fan960 boys just pulled the perfect troll job with this OEL stuff. Look at this! Look what a 15 minute segment has done here!

The horror...the horror.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I could see this happening if its a 1 for 1 swap (NO 1ST ROUND PICK) and Arizona makes the dollars on OEL's contract 6.75M for us just so that it can get out of some term. That's the only way I MIGHT do this. Even then, I think OEL might be overrated.

you think the Coyotes organization on the whole would pay OEL 1.5m a year for 7 years to play against them?

I couldn't see the Yotes retaining one red cent of that contract in an OEL deal.

Matter of fact, I think Ottawa has their names written all over OEL.

[gvitaly]

I would consider taking on OEL for Gio + Lucic, or a Hanifin + Lucic.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I would consider taking on OEL for Gio + Lucic, or a Hanifin + Lucic.

Why Hanifin? That'd be the worst. We'd be paying a little less than double for such a marginal gain its ridiculous. And losing what? 7 years of age and mileage?

Sorry, but thats a big old DERP.

[TheScorpion]

To play the Devil's advocate, the last time the Flames acquired a contract that everyone hated, they won that deal by a mile

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I would consider taking on OEL for Gio + Lucic, or a Hanifin + Lucic.

I take my comments back. I'll do either of these deals.