Will the NHL boycott games? Should it?

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by buyakasha

When the NBA players strike, it leads to Owners (with powerful connections in politics) making 0 dollars from the team. Which then forces owners to make calls to those powerful connections to finally make real, tangible actions that will hopefully change the system of police training and funding.

This isn't about you, this isn't about the fans, none of that matters. It is ONLY about equality. That's it. There is no "I'm all for equality but.." in this scenario.

I get it's hard to connect to these situations sometimes especially if you're not black or a person of colour, but please if you find yourself always fighting or arguing what the black community is doing, really take yourself out of the equation and listen. Listen to what people in the communities are saying and not put your own bull**** into the issues.

I agree partially, but disagree partially.

There is definitely a "fan" component here as well, and it was stated as such by the players. They're role models for countless people, who will see what they're doing, take note and hopefully take action. For those they are not role models for, they are entertainment for. And this is a firm signal that they will not act as entertainment for those who won't stand up for their rights or stand up against the obvious injustice that is occurring. It's essentially a: "if you don't support this we don't want you as a fan" moment. That might be enough for some people who were formerly hesitant to fully join the movement.


Also, off topic, but I didn't think my opinion of some of you could get worse. Anyone talking about Law and Order in this thread is an unrepentant racist and ######bag who has no conception at all for the severity of this situation, and is willfully blind to the actions of police in the USA. Not absolving Canada's Police in this situation, but how anyone paying any attention to the development of this scenario in the United States can stand up and say they hope there's a return to Law and Order is completely beyond me- unless they are a racist.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

So the nba is back playing today but the nhl isn’t? That seems...odd.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

I get what you are saying, but what are they supposed to be working on? Does BLM have a plan about what to address or are the owners of pro sports team supposed to jump to every supposed problem. Maybe come up with a plan on what to address, specific ideas, then sit with the leagues/owners and form a way to make the recommendations. As an example, we hear systemic racism thrown about, show specifics and be willing to listen when someone disproves your opinion on certain claims of systemic racism.

The main plan was awareness. Which led to a ton of peaceful protests (marred by some localized vandalism and theft, as is typical for people who take advantage of large gatherings, such as Vancouver, and Toronto G20).

This has been followed up with a constant stream of egregious abuses of power by police. They didn’t skip a beat. It isn’t a supposed problem, it’s a real problem. And it’s not even political, we’re talking about people. So what’s left to do but continue to hammer down on awareness wherever you can. If it makes someone who isn’t following the news wonder why their sporting event is cancelled, and they learn more about the issue, that’s a successful move. I would have thought this would have put police on eggshells for at least a few months. But nothing has changed. And I’m sure most wouldn’t argue that a lot of this is grasping at straws out of desperation, but what else do they really have to go on for immediate action?

[Monahammer]

Another quick comment, directed to Azure.

Certainly, the issues in Belarus and China (not only treatment of Uyghers, but also aggressive expansionism against central asian neighbors, treatment of Hong Kong and Taiwan, Naval Expansion, and the awful economic extortion through the Belt + Road Initiative) deserve global attention. However, bringing those issues up in context of the ongoing struggle of people of color in the USA is essentially the same as shouting "all lives matter." Yes, those issues are important, but this issue is at hand and personal for many of the BLACK NBA players, playing in the same country where these issues are occurring. Not absolving them of their ties to Nike/ these other problems, but this is completely separate.

It's the same as the people who are now clamouring that the individual shot in Wisconsin had a criminal record: so ####ing what? Cops still aren't supposed to execute "criminals" in the street, we don't live in ####ing Judge Dredd Future. These are separate things that are being brought in to detract from the conversation and the purpose. Their struggle doesn't matter less because there are other global struggles occurring.

[dammage79]

Sounds like the NHL is scrubbing tonight's games and tomorrow's in response to a request from the HDA. Good move and proper IMO. But I also feel its a bit of a day late and a dollar short type thing as well.

They missed the first bus but its also okay to take the next bus too I suppose.

Edit: looks like the players stepped up and asked the HDA. Good.

[d_phaneuf]

Another reason to be proud of the boys

https://twitter.com/user/status/1299057740166422529

[Scroopy Noopers]

Farhan Lalji Tweets:

“Spoke to @Dreamer_Aliu78 who tells me it was the players who initiated the discussion w/@TheOfficialHDA last night. Scott Laughton, James van Riemsdyk & Kevin Shattenkirk all reached out to Chris Stewart, looking for advice on what to do. It led to today's large #NHL group call

Players were looking for answers. Felt as though #NHL was putting this in the players hands. Asked if players felt somewhat forced, "Ya, but who cares?" #HDA was very upset yesterday with lack of movement from league, obv alot has changed today.

Message from #HDA to players, "Don’t let this moment pass, this is bigger than hockey." Next step is to get commitment from #NHL & owners to make meaningful change. Belief is owners have the right relationships, need to make investments & use their networks to sell the message“

[troutman]

For those that don't know (like me) HDA is Hockey Diversity Alliance.

[handgroen]

are we thinking hiatus on games or cancellation of the tournament?

[Toonage]

Everything likely pushed back a few days but the tournament will carry on

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by handgroen

are we thinking hiatus on games or cancellation of the tournament?

NBA players voted to resume this weekend.

[CroFlames]

Considering the NBA is going back to business, maybe the players felt that one day of cancellations was enough of a message.

If the NHL players choose not to work tonight in solidarity, I think that is a great move. Likely means it's a one night hiatus to raise awareness, then it's back to work.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

We will see if the riots are stopped tonight by the action of the NBA players.

NSFW!

[chummer]

Originally Posted by croflames

considering the nba is going back to business, maybe the players felt that one day of cancellations was enough of a message.

If the nhl players choose not to work tonight in solidarity, i think that is a great move. Likely means it's a one night hiatus to raise awareness, then it's back to work.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1299059241978916869

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Good to see the players take action themselves. Not sure why they’d expect the league to be out in front of this. Nice to see them take some accountability.

[Magnum PEI]

FFS. All because some criminal had a failed death by cop attempt.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

FFS. All because some criminal had a failed death by cop attempt.

For people wondering, I don't think it is healthy to remove posts like this or give the people an infraction. Views such as this are part of the reason why we have issues in our society. So I think it is important that we allow them to be stated so we can see the reality of where we are at, in all its ugliness. Deleting it only masks those issues by pretending they don't exist including within the community on CP.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

FFS. All because some criminal had a failed death by cop attempt.

Do you think this is all about one incident in Kenosha?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

FFS. All because some criminal had a failed death by cop attempt.

In 2020, this is his takeaway.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by chummer

https://twitter.com/user/status/1299059241978916869

A couple days break for raising awareness and expressing solidarity I totally get and am on board with. Good call. Much better than long term suspension of games.

With media and sources of info being as polarized as they are, sports are one of few spaces that really are a big tent that pulls people from all across the political spectrum and holds their attention. If the league and the players have something to make use of in getting a message out, it's that attention from all political corners. Better to keep the sport going with only minor interruption, keeping that platform alive for people in hockey to express themselves through as they wish.