08-25-2020, 10:58 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
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I don't understand how the Play in is considered as playoffs, stupid.
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08-25-2020, 11:00 PM
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#282
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In the Sin Bin
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the play in rounds have certainly skewed stats...they shouldn't be counted as playoff stats for anyone IMO they weren't actually playoffs
Its not salt, Flames didn't win a round...it wasn't playoffs yet. I have the same opinion regardless of team
did McDavid have 9 playoff points despite missing the playoffs? lots of fake records being set this year
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08-25-2020, 11:09 PM
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#283
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I think the qualifying round was officially "postseason", but not "playoffs".
Regardless, those games were played like playoff games - the stakes and intensity were there every bit as much as the "real" playoffs, so that's still a pretty impressive stat line. Their qualifying round was against Minnesota, too - not exactly an easy team to pile up points against when the season's on the line. Pretty tight checking squad.
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08-25-2020, 11:27 PM
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#284
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In the Sin Bin
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Playing an 12, 11, 10, 9, seed is certainly an advantage against historical records
For me none of those stats are playoff stats for any team...people seem to want to pick and choose
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08-25-2020, 11:34 PM
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#285
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I think the qualifying round was officially "postseason", but not "playoffs".
Regardless, those games were played like playoff games - the stakes and intensity were there every bit as much as the "real" playoffs, so that's still a pretty impressive stat line. Their qualifying round was against Minnesota, too - not exactly an easy team to pile up points against when the season's on the line. Pretty tight checking squad.
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They had the 3rd worst goals against in the WC. It was pretty tight in the bottom half of the West, but I don't think they are anything special when it comes to limiting scoring chances.
I have no problem using the play-ins as stats for the post-season though.
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08-25-2020, 11:40 PM
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#286
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
They had the 3rd worst goals against in the WC. It was pretty tight in the bottom half of the West, but I don't think they are anything special when it comes to limiting scoring chances.
I have no problem using the play-ins as stats for the post-season though.
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The Wild were amazing at limiting chances. Dubnyk couldn't stop a basketball
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08-26-2020, 12:18 AM
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#287
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Marchessault really hates it when people waste his time
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08-26-2020, 12:52 AM
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#288
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Notwithstanding the lopsided score, that was anything but the reverse of game 1. Knights still dominated large stretches. If they keep playing like that they'll win in 5 or 6.
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Just like st louis!
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08-26-2020, 03:29 AM
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#289
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Playing an 12, 11, 10, 9, seed is certainly an advantage against historical records
For me none of those stats are playoff stats for any team...people seem to want to pick and choose
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How is the 7th seed playing the 10th seed, two teams that were separated by a single point, advantageous against the 2nd seed playing the 7th seed, with those teams separated by 8 points (Pittsburgh vs Ottawa in 07-08)?
The qualifiers might not count in terms of “winning a round in the Stanley Cup playoffs” and you can argue that, because of that, the stats shouldn’t count at all, but don’t act like they’re somehow less legitimate from a competition standpoint. That’s silly.
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08-26-2020, 04:12 AM
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#290
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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The play in series had unlimited OT and the losers were eliminated. They were de facto playoff games.
Having 24 of 31 teams in the playoffs seems like a lot but isn’t much more than when 4 of 6 or 16 of 21 made them. Also with parity I’d argue playing a 24th seed today is tougher than facing a 16th seed in the 80s.
Let’s just enjoy these playoffs without trying to put an asterisk on everything.
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08-26-2020, 06:44 AM
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#291
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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'member when Markstrom was available on waivers and we chose to keep Ortio?
I 'member
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08-26-2020, 06:47 AM
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#292
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Join Date: Mar 2018
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Hahaha maybe not such a mystery why Florida wanted him out? What a dork.
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08-26-2020, 08:10 AM
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#293
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Franchise Player
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08-26-2020, 08:17 AM
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#294
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
'member when Markstrom was available on waivers and we chose to keep Ortio?
I 'member
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Ouch I don't remember that. The misread on Ortio ended up being costly in more ways than one.
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08-26-2020, 09:47 AM
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#295
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
'member when Markstrom was available on waivers and we chose to keep Ortio?
I 'member
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Remember, at the time, there was a reason Markstrom was on waivers. If Ian Clark never rejoins the Canucks, he probably doesn't get this good.
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08-26-2020, 10:10 AM
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#296
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
'member when Markstrom was available on waivers and we chose to keep Ortio?
I 'member
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Was this in 2014? Because we already had Ramo and UFA Hiller under contract for a combined $7.25M, and if my understanding of waiver rules is correct, they likely didn't want to carry three goalies on the NHL roster.
Ortio would have been in the AHL and waiver exempt IIRC. They may have preferred Ortio at the time, but to say they chose Ortio over Markstrom is a bit misleading...
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08-26-2020, 10:13 AM
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#297
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
the play in rounds have certainly skewed stats...they shouldn't be counted as playoff stats for anyone IMO they weren't actually playoffs
Its not salt, Flames didn't win a round...it wasn't playoffs yet. I have the same opinion regardless of team
did McDavid have 9 playoff points despite missing the playoffs? lots of fake records being set this year
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The NHL boxed itself in by prorating points for bonuses. Couldn’t do that plus count play-in points As regular season, I guess.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I think the qualifying round was officially "postseason", but not "playoffs".
Regardless, those games were played like playoff games - the stakes and intensity were there every bit as much as the "real" playoffs, so that's still a pretty impressive stat line. Their qualifying round was against Minnesota, too - not exactly an easy team to pile up points against when the season's on the line. Pretty tight checking squad.
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My biased view is that winning a play-in round is like winning a PO round because there was no substantive difference (especially when you are old enough to remember 5 game first round series). BUT not wining the play-in means you didn’t make the POs (Edmonton).
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08-26-2020, 10:20 AM
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#298
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
'member when Markstrom was available on waivers and we chose to keep Ortio?
I 'member
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He was? Hindsight, the entire league should have snagged him and he never should have been there in the first place
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08-26-2020, 10:20 AM
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#299
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by tvp2003
Was this in 2014? Because we already had Ramo and UFA Hiller under contract for a combined $7.25M, and if my understanding of waiver rules is correct, they likely didn't want to carry three goalies on the NHL roster.
Ortio would have been in the AHL and waiver exempt IIRC. They may have preferred Ortio at the time, but to say they chose Ortio over Markstrom is a bit misleading...
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Funny Story:
The Flames were already carrying 3 goalies on the roster which is how the team lost Paul Byron to Montreal.
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08-26-2020, 10:21 AM
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#300
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