2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[indes]

I think perceptions like that just stick, how he was supposed to be a toews lite when he was drafted.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Only way he gets $5 million per is if Feaster gets a GM job again. $3 million seems high too but can't totally rule that out.

Dobber contract predictions have him at 3.6 and they are usually a pretty good ballpark.

He had 60 points only a season ago. He won’t be signing for 1.2. Like I said it’s dependent on term

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Only way he gets $5 million per is if Feaster gets a GM job again. $3 million seems high too but can't totally rule that out.

Guy is a dman with 89 NHL points in the last year and 3/4...he is getting $3+

[bluejays]

I really think Buffalo would be a better fit for Gaudreau. He's marketable, can fit in well with the less physical division, and they have young assets possible to move. Just my thought.

[Enoch Root]

I think UFA contracts (beyond the big names) are going to be stingy this year, especially for defensemen.

Under normal circumstances, I would guess $3.5M for 3 to 4 years for Gustafsson. But I will guess that he signs something more like for 1-yr @ $2 - 2.5M

[Roof-Daddy]

Yeah people seem to really underestimate Gustafsson's value. A guy who plays 20 minutes a game regularly and puts up about 0.5 points per game is going to make more than a couple million AAV as a UFA.

[Icon]

I'm quite content if Gustafsson goes elsewhere. It seemed like any/every time he got the puck in his own end it resulted in a turnover, and he didn't produce enough offensively for me to overlook that.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Guy is a dman with 89 NHL points in the last year and 3/4...he is getting $3+

I guess you’re saying $3 million is the minimum. I’m saying $5 is nuts and $3 is a possibility. But with a flat cap, pickings could be slim.

You’d think a player that valuable would have had more interest at the trade deadline.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Ok, follow along here.

If the Flames are trading one of their other forwards to get cap space, they can't really take salary back in that exchange.

handwaving away being over the cap by sending out a big ticket forward like Monahan or Backlund without any cap coming back isn't an easy trade to pull off without getting ripped off in the process.

If they are trading away another forward to alleviate cap pressure, taking salary back doesn't exactly fix anything.

which is why they would need to send the salary out without it coming back.

The returns will be underwhelming, no doubt. But that is what happens when you are coming into an expansion draft. You still maximize what you can get in return. It is just what the market can bear. Don’t let that stop you from improving your team long term.

[1qqaaz]

How much better is Gustafsson than Anton Babchuk?

Flames extended Backchuk for 2 years at 2.5 per if I recall. Ended up being mostly benched.

He never produced quite like Gustafsson. Had a better shot, but wasn't nearly as mobile. I'm pretty sure Gustafsson's a lot better.

[TheScorpion]

Yeah Babchuk is honestly a decent comparable for Gus. I don't see Gus being in the NHL by 2022.

[Monahammer]

Gio for OEL, who says no?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Gio for OEL, who says no?

Me, right now, without reservation

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Gio for OEL, who says no?

Coyotes for sure

[GS Skier]

Originally Posted by fleury

I really think Buffalo would be a better fit for Gaudreau. He's marketable, can fit in well with the less physical division, and they have young assets possible to move. Just my thought.

I also think New jersey is a natural and they have better draft picks to toss in IF we are assuming we want cap space (like 90% of the rest of the league)

He'd be closer to home in either place. He's exciting to watch as we all well know. He puts butts in seats and love him or hate him he's entertaining and teams value that.
He also has a very friendly contract in todays terms of 8-9 and 10 million a year players.
He also scores!

Careful what we wish for. Trade Gaudreau and if you don't get Hall the team is weaker. You have to get to the playoffs first and we never used to get to the playoffs. With Gaudreau, Monahan and now Tkachuk at least we've made it 4 out of the past 6 years and that never used to happen.

I say whatever if we trade him you could get 3 mill in space by taking lower level reliable roster 3 mill +- RW, from NJ a 1st round pick and the proverbial prospect.

You still have to resign Brodie, Talbot ( We have 4 UFAs on D young guys aside and we need a goalie and that'll cost us anyway) Also theres a raise for Mangiapane.

If let Hamonic walk and go to the Jets we could have 6 mill or so left and IF you get 3 mill more from selling JG then you have to spend that on a Hall because you sent Guadreau packing.

[Sandman]

Gus is great in the O zone, mediocre in the neutral zone, and is often a train wreck in the D zone. 60+points for him is an outlier, but he will put up points on the PP-he's known as a specialist in that area. Some have said he would be a replacement for Brodie, but Brodes plays well in all 3 zones. Overall, Gus is a downgrade. He will, however, make between 3-4M/yr methinks.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Gio for OEL, who says no?

Gio was pretty bad this year, and I think he's in decline big time, but I don't think locking ourselves in to OEL and his salary/cap hit/term would be the solution. Ideally, if they decide to trade Gio, it would hopefully be for someone young, or coax Seattle into taking him. If Gio stays, his ice time should go down a bit, especially if Brodie leaves-and that would make him an expensive 2nd pairing guy.

[Macho0978]

In fairness to gus quite often players acquired at the deadline and asked to play a skill role on their new teams pp struggle post deadline. This year had to be much harder as you get a few games in New team take 5 months off then get 1 preseason game then jump right into playoffs. Pretty tough ask to expect him to excel

If we can get him for less than 4 im ok with it. I also think Gio is on the decline so flames are going to need a pp dman. Rasmus probably better suited for pp2

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Gio for OEL, who says no?

I do. OEL is a giveaway machine. Flames fans would have a new whipping boy after 10 games of watching this guy up close. Big no to OEL.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by New Era

I do. OEL is a giveaway machine. Flames fans would have a new whipping boy after 10 games of watching this guy up close. Big no to OEL.

While I would also say no, this is wrong.

OEL ranked 2nd last on his team among D-men in Giveaways/60 at 1.94/60.

That is right in line with Gio (1.93) and only ranked 123rd out of 215 defensemen that played 400+ minutes this year.

In the last 3 years combined, OEL ranked 162nd out of 256 defensemen that played 800+ minutes during that span at 1.87/60.

So he's not even close to being in the top half of worst defenseman on a giveaway/60 rate, let alone being a giveaway machine, whereas someone like Brodie (who Flames fans hated the last couple years prior to this year for his giveaways) ranks 37th in the same time period at 2.82/60.