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Retool 262 55.51%
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:10 PM   #21
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Tear. It. Down.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:10 PM   #22
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Come on..

Välimäki, Andersson, Hanifin.
None of those guys are going to be elite #1 D

They're nice top 4 D and good to have a round but yo really think any of them will be like Makar or Hughes, Karlsson or Doughty?
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:11 PM   #23
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This team needs professional help when it comes to sports psychology.
No, they're top players don't have the 'win at all costs' makeup and you can't teach that. Also a 5 foot 8 155 pound player will never be successful in the playoffs so long as the reffing isn't the same as the regular season. In a flat cap world you can't have a guy making $6-7 million that can't drive the play when the play gets rough and there's no powerplays. Blow it up, it's over for this group.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:11 PM   #24
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Our D are the friendliest, most easy to play against D in the league.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:11 PM   #25
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After years & years of retooling, I think it's time to come clean and stop hiding from the reality that this rebuild didn't work. Gio is DONE as an elite defenseman, and is only going to decline from here. Johnny can't get it done in the playoffs and Monahan/Lindholm are overrated to say the least. Keep some players like Bennett, Dube, Mangiapane, Backlund, Brodie, etc and trade away the guys who completely disappear come playoff time year after year. Oh and GET A REAL #1 GOALIE.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:12 PM   #26
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I would rebuild but doubt the owners have the stomach
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:12 PM   #27
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Rebuild.

Step 1: find an actual gm. Not a AGM who's resume highlights sate: managed a failing franchise

Keep : tkachuk, Dube, Bennett, Andersson, valimaki, maybe backlund.

Draft a #1 center. Keep rebuilding until you do.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:12 PM   #28
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Get rid of the GM and start fresh. Treliving sucks.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:13 PM   #29
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I’m thinking that was Johnny and Monny’s last games here. I’d say highest probability is Johnny is gone. His value will only go down and it’s his last year of his contract coming up.
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Find a new team to cheer for. Should have just given in to the threats to move the team. Insured now you get to pay higher taxes and ticket prices to see this dumpster fire of an organization put up games like that. What the ####.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:13 PM   #31
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I would have said retool before but I fear the team is actually way further away from success than they appeared to be in the last few seasons. Might have to go rebuild now. They need outright elite players.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:15 PM   #32
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Rebuild on the fly. No need to tear it down. Monahan needs to go.

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Tkachuk
Backlund
Dube
Andersson
Bennett

On the fence about Gaudreau. Don’t trade him yet unless you get a good return. Selling low on him is the worst thing we can do
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:15 PM   #33
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Why do people want to keep Hanafin? He sucks.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:15 PM   #34
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Come on..

Välimäki, Andersson, Hanifin.
Come on.

I love Andersson, but he will never be a #1 defenceman. Hanifin has been what he is for the last two seasons.

And Valimaki is a complete wild card with his significant injury to even be an impact player in this league.

It's far more likely none of these guys develop into #1 defencemen than even one developing into a #1.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:15 PM   #35
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Shane Wright is going to be the best Flames player of all time.

Book it.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:15 PM   #36
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I say rebuild but unless were getting a top 3 it just seems so pointless. Is there any up and coming sure thing generational players on the horizon?
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:16 PM   #37
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I would rebuild but doubt the owners have the stomach
If they'd just done it properly the first time instead of taking shortcuts we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:16 PM   #38
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Looks like most people want a rebuild. How do you get managment to do it thought? Post an add somewhere, do we try to make the news, spam BT with emails begging him to do it, season ticket owners hitting them in the pocket where it hurts the most?
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:17 PM   #39
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Retool. Lots of good pieces here. Need to know what JG's intentions are. If you are unsure he is staying you deal him, if you can sign him I think he is a dynamic player that can help you win but not with Monahan who absolutely needs to go. He does not skate well and he is beyond bad in the games that matter. I would not be opposed moving Gio either if he can get a good return as he is starting to fall off a cliff. Would be nice to also have a solid goalie. I thought Talbot played well for the most part and would not be opposed to him returning. Also get a decent coach, Ward is just not a good head coach. So absolutely must do's are trade Monahan and bring in a quality head coach.
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:17 PM   #40
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the Flames have been retooling for 13 years.
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