[PGT] Stars 5 Flames 4 (OT)

[browna]

Going into the series if you could say the Flames were tied after 4 games, almost everyone would take that.

Penalties that took up 8 mins of the first 11:53 of the third period swing the momentum toward Dallas for the rest of the period and OT.

But prior to that, cant say the Flames didn't deserve to be tied going into the third, either. If could've held on for 10 more seconds,Dallas was done. They threw it all out there in desperation and Flames almost weathered it.

But because they didn't weather it, and got worked over it OT, though JG and Reider had as good as chances as Dallas did in OT, the negative nannies come out and then the Flames were supposedly dominated all game.

[calgaryred]

I'll take this series over last years I'm finding the match up very entertaining, should be the best series of the first round. I thought Flames could go 7 with the Stars and it just may.

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[FireGilbert]

Well add another one to the list of Flames playoff heartbreakers. After the disallowed goal I thought they had it but nope 12s left then 2 big broken sticks in OT. God dammit.

I recall watching a BJs game and saw something about Torts always having player without a stick go back to the bench as he prefers a short 5 on 4 to sustained pressure without a stick. During that game winner sequence I was yelling at my TV for the forward to go get a stick.

[AC]

Originally Posted by browna

Going into the series if you could say the Flames were tied after 4 games, almost everyone would take that.

Penalties that took up 8 mins of the first 11:53 of the third period swing the momentum toward Dallas for the rest of the period and OT.

But prior to that, cant say the Flames didn't deserve to be tied going into the third, either. If could've held on for 10 more seconds,Dallas was done. They threw it all out there in desperation and Flames almost weathered it.

But because they didn't weather it, and got worked over it OT, though JG and Reider had as good as changes as Dallas did in OT, the negative nannies come out and then the Flames were supposedly dominated all game.

Shots were also 34-34 when Rieder scored the SHG to go ahead. Dallas just went into desperation mode and Calgary tried to lock it down again, which they've been able to do up until today (and were 11 seconds away from doing it again).

[EVERLAST]

Calgary needs to find desperation mode.

Taking series to 7's cannot be afforded.

If indeed Johnny's heating up then Lindholm and Monahan have to be willing to chase pucks into corners . I noticed JG doing this a few times today and Sean and Elias retrieved them quickly looking back for Johnny.

Man if we can somehow get our defense activated more we win these games . Dallas and anyone that's read thr book on thr flames know we have a hard time getting forechecked.

One adjustment id like to see is the defence skating it out more.....Raz and TJ don't get enough credit for their abilities to do this....cannot even imagine what it would be like if Valimaki could play.

Hopefully Gus is okay...he got shaken up late but kept playing.

Let's burn the tape and start fresh ....best of 3 now.

[SuperMatt18]

Flames are getting outplayed but a big part of that is they are leading more frequently.

I think it’s starting to show up in their end get too. It takes a lot of energy to defend and 8 playoff games in 16 days with 2 back to backs and a weird schedule. They are a team that looks tired to me.

Here are the numbers across different situations through 4 games.

Tied:
TOI- 103 Minutes
CF%- 45.1%

Leading:
TOI- 102 Minutes
CF%- 28.8%

Trailing:
TOI- 51.0 Minutes
CF%-51.0%

And crazy part is while leading the Flames have had 2 minutes of PP time, vs 15 minutes short handed. So that seems to show that NHL vaunted “game management” coming through. At even strength PP time is even at 7 minutes each, and while trailing the Flames have had 7:00 minutes of PP time vs 7:43 of short handed time. So once Flames get the lead the Stars seem to get a PP parade.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by browna

Going into the series if you could say the Flames were tied after 4 games, almost everyone would take that.

Penalties that took up 8 mins of the first 11:53 of the third period swing the momentum toward Dallas for the rest of the period and OT.

But prior to that, cant say the Flames didn't deserve to be tied going into the third, either. If could've held on for 10 more seconds,Dallas was done. They threw it all out there in desperation and Flames almost weathered it.

But because they didn't weather it, and got worked over it OT, though JG and Reider had as good as chances as Dallas did in OT, the negative nannies come out and then the Flames were supposedly dominated all game.

I don’t think Dallas would have been done down 3-1, not with how these games have gone.

But can’t deny the Flames were 12 seconds away from having three cracks at eliminating them. That hurts.

[DropIt]

Gio needs to check his ####. Guy isnt just underperforming, he's a liability

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Again check out his actual stats this year
He isn’t a scrub

Why look at the stats when you can watch him play. Shaky and not very confident. Rebound control is poor.
His only saving grace is that the Flames refuse to put pucks on him.

[Dan02]

You guys do realize Gio is nearly 37 right? We were lucky he played so well through his mid 30s but father time catches up with everyone. If you look at the list of guys left older then him, none of them are game changers anymore either.

He's not going through a cold streak, this is just whats left in the tank now.

[Roof-Daddy]

Still two more seasons left of Gio too, eating up $6.75 million cap.

[djsFlames]

When your "depth" includes Pavelski, a guy who played an integral role in multiple deep Sharks run, and Corey Perry, a guy who played an integral role in multiple deep Ducks runs, with Comeau as your weakest link up front, you've got a pretty decent ####ing team for a playoff situation.

Its not about what the last few weeks of the regular season were like for Dallas, you just need to look at the make up of the roster to notice and respect the weapons they boast.

No time to be discrediting any success the Flames manage here, the opponent is on another tier than WPG now that their pieces are going and engaged.

So if the Flames manage to steer this home, then they will be full marks for doing so, just as the Stars will be if they do. That team is no longer coasting and will take a Flames effort that deserves recognition in order to put them down, and probably an ugly one at times like we've seen when we've weathered the storms. We've just seen what a desperate stars group will do, and they put the puck on net 108 times. There will not be and shouldn't be any asterisks or "easy opponent" footnotes, that's definitely not the case here.

So like Alan Grant would say, try to show a little respect.

[badradio]

Let me preface this with saying I think Talbot has been incredible so far and has stolen games, but with his style of play he is wearing our own defence down.
Talbot is a blocking style goalie and Dallas has read the book on him, if you shoot low you are going to get a rebound. One shot can easily turn into 4. It’s like his pads are made of rubber.
Now compare this with the style of play of Kipper where pucks died on his pads and he covered most plays it stopped the defence from having to scramble and defend almost every play. Rittich’s style is much more like Kippers. I don’t blame Talbot for the loss one bit, that’s just the style he plays, but in a condensed playoff format I could see this being extremely taxing on the D every shift. There is a reason Dallas had so many shots. That’s my take anyways.

[Benched]

Other game details aside, I’m freaking loving Sam Bennett. Wasn’t a huge fan before, but now I see the draw. His play has been fantastic. Turned into a huge Bennett fan.

(Honourable mention to Dube, kid is a stud.)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Still two more seasons left of Gio too, eating up $6.75 million cap.

That’s kinda the deal you get when you underpay him for all the previous years.

[Meers]

I'll take a three game series as the lower seed every time.

[AustinL_NHL]

Among the 16 teams that made the actual Playoffs, at 5v5, the Flames rank:

- 5th last in CF%
- 4th last in FF%
- 7th last in SF%
- 2nd last in SCF%
- 3rd last in HDCF%
- 3rd last in xGF%

Every single team who ranks below them (except Vancouver, who's only worse in CF% and SF%) is, of course, losing their series. The Flames are incredibly lucky to be tied 2-2.

Dooon't think that's a good recipe for success.

[Dragomir]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Among the 16 teams that made the actual Playoffs, at 5v5, the Flames rank:

- 5th last in CF%
- 4th last in FF%
- 7th last in SF%
- 2nd last in SCF%
- 3rd last in HDCF%
- 3rd last in xGF%

Every single team who ranks below them (except Vancouver, who's only worse in CF% and SF%) is, of course, losing their series. The Flames are incredibly lucky to be tied 2-2.

Dooon't think that's a good recipe for success.

This is why a rebuild is necessary

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Among the 16 teams that made the actual Playoffs, at 5v5, the Flames rank:

- 5th last in CF%
- 4th last in FF%
- 7th last in SF%
- 2nd last in SCF%
- 3rd last in HDCF%
- 3rd last in xGF%

Every single team who ranks below them (except Vancouver, who's only worse in CF% and SF%) is, of course, losing their series. The Flames are incredibly lucky to be tied 2-2.

Dooon't think that's a good recipe for success.

Generally I'd agree and they do need to elevate still

But I think how much the Stars have been in the chasing role in games and getting a leg up with all the calls and virtually none the other way which lends itself to momentum at even strength plays into it.

A lot of situational stuff going on that can't be broken down accurately with a couple broad percentages.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

Calgary needs to find desperation mode.

Taking series to 7's cannot be afforded.

If indeed Johnny's heating up then Lindholm and Monahan have to be willing to chase pucks into corners . I noticed JG doing this a few times today and Sean and Elias retrieved them quickly looking back for Johnny.

Man if we can somehow get our defense activated more we win these games . Dallas and anyone that's read thr book on thr flames know we have a hard time getting forechecked.

One adjustment id like to see is the defence skating it out more.....Raz and TJ don't get enough credit for their abilities to do this....cannot even imagine what it would be like if Valimaki could play.

Hopefully Gus is okay...he got shaken up late but kept playing.

Let's burn the tape and start fresh ....best of 3 now.

100% on skating the puck out.

Dallas is anticipating the long passes down the middle or to the boards at the blue line, intercepting or deflecting it most times.

Brodie decided to do just this rather than opt for the pass at one point and it resulted in a good opportunity at the other end. All because the Stars were so set on that pass coming, that he ended up having tons of time & space to just carry it up. Amazing what can happen when your opponent suddenly can't set their watch to what you're going to do next.

When your opponent zigs to anticipate your game, you have to zag.

It's not so much about coaching adjustments, but adjustments by the individual players in the moment. Creativity pays off when the other team is clearly going by their video on your transitional tendencies.

That also includes not drop passing the puck 95% of. the. pucking. time.