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Old 08-08-2020, 01:11 PM   #681
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My favorite moment of the series is Smith coughing up a puck. Something we suffered through here - and as usual with Smith - it was at a horrible moment that really changed the complexion of the series.
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Old 08-08-2020, 01:13 PM   #682
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The Oilers have a bad track record with coaches.


Pat Quinn - Probably too much of a meany quit on him.


Tom Renney - Started well, but when you watched in the end, the team felt like it was ignoring him to play their version of Oilyaz hockey


Ralph Krueger - Good teaching coach, but the Oilers weren't interested in keeping him


Dallas Eakins - Probably the only real justifiably bad coach. But he was the shiny start hire by the Oilers. Invented the corner swarm defense.


Todd Nelson - Was a Temp, had to have Mac-T hold his hand behind the bench in an embarrassing bit of management interference.


Todd Mclellan - I think he was an over rated coach who benefited from a strong Sharks team. However he started well and was credible, but when you watch in the end, the team quit on him and stopped playing any system


Tippet - There's no way that Tippet coached these ding dongs to play the way they did. Like I've said when you have a super star like McDavid who's the corner stone its more then likely that he was told to coach the way Connor likes it, and if Connor has a idea you implement it. But they team was gutless and flat in this playoff series, they weren't playing any kind of system with any kind of commitment. Classify this was as quit on coach. But Tippet is also a notorious quitter. He spent the last year in Arizona reading the Newspaper on the bench when management didn't give him his way. So look for him to quit on the job next year.



Next coach of the Oilers - Harrison Katz - He's being groomed for a major management role in the organization, why not coach? I mean he's on the mural of the new building, in every draft pictures. He's attended draft meetings. He demanded that Yak get drafted and it happened.

Next coach of the Oilers - Harrison Katz I figured that's who was running the 50/50.
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The NHL should institute a rule that any team winning a fifth No. 1 overall pick over two decades is immediately relegated to the AHL for generational incompetence and overall no goodness. They should be replaced with a team from a better quality sports town with a more supportive and sophisticated base of fans. You know, like Rochester NY, Hershey PA or Des Moins IA.
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The NHL should institute a rule that any team winning a fifth No. 1 overall pick over two decades is immediately relegated to the AHL for generational incompetence and overall no goodness. They should be replaced with a team from a better quality sports town with a more supportive and sophisticated base of fans. You know, like Rochester NY, Hershey PA or Des Moins IA.
It’s be so easy to just make a rule that no team can draft 1st overall two years in a row and drop them to 4th.
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Well, hopefully the NHL makes sure that the Oilers lose the lottery. Sometimes fixed results are a good thing, maybe it was put in the contract with the audit firm, kind of like wrestling where the heal never wins.
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Old 08-08-2020, 01:30 PM   #686
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One has to wonder what Katz must be thinking about all this.

13 years he has had the team....made the round of 16 one time.
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Old 08-08-2020, 01:53 PM   #687
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Best thing about this, is 2 more years of Kostthemwins at 4.5M. So if they want to try and fix their goaltending issues, that is where all their free cap space will go. Chances are they would have to overpay as per usual.
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Let's also remember that the Hawks were sellers at the deadline -- moving out their highest-scoring d-man and their better statistical goalie. The Oilers were buyers.

They gave up their 2020 2nd and 4th round picks and their 2021 2nd and 5th round picks for Green - who opted out; Athanasiou - who had no points in the play-in round; and Ennis - who had 2 points in 3 play-in games before getting injured.
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One has to wonder what Katz must be thinking about all this.

13 years he has had the team....made the round of 16 one time.
If he hasn't figured out that the only constant in that time (and prior) is Lowe and his BS and meddling ways, he won't now.

Lowe has sweet talked his way into the Hall of Fame, and a guarantee he's in Katz's ear all of that time...spending Katz's money on the each coach and GM which is promised to be better than the last, but then is the first one blamed when things go wrong.

As mentioned, someone always is to blame on the offseason, and we should get good guidence from the press as to who the organization thinks that is, in the upcoming days.
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One has to wonder what Katz must be thinking about all this.

13 years he has had the team....made the round of 16 one time.
Do you really think he cares, or that he just wanted to use the Oilers to leverage a massive real estate deal to increase the value of his holdings?
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Do you really think he cares, or that he just wanted to use the Oilers to leverage a massive real estate deal to increase the value of his holdings?
Well im guessing he cares since he spent 200 million dollars on them, was a life long fan of theirs, and would make far more money if they played in the playoffs more than once every 13 years.

Yeah he leveraged ownership of the club into a real estate development, but that doesn't preclude him from wanting to have a winning hockey club and wondering WTF is going on as to why that isnt occurring.
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Do you really think he cares, or that he just wanted to use the Oilers to leverage a massive real estate deal to increase the value of his holdings?
Well, considering that playoffs are pure profit, I'd guess that he cares very much.
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The last 2 coaches have been Hitchcock and Tippett.

It ain't the coaches.
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Well im guessing he cares since he spent 200 million dollars on them, was a life long fan of theirs, and would make far more money if they played in the playoffs more than once every 13 years.

Yeah he leveraged ownership of the club into a real estate development, but that doesn't preclude him from wanting to have a winning hockey club and wondering WTF is going on as to why that isnt occurring.
And you would think, with the #MeToo thing, his casting couch business would have been shut down, and he would have more time to focus on his other passion...
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I wonder how McDavid processes this internally over the off season. I would think for actual leaders in his position, they would look at their counterpart on the other team, see how Toews played the game for his team in the playoffs and focus on becoming a more complete player for next season. In Edmonton's organizational culture though, I would think it's pretty likely that he sees his 9 points and feels sorry for himself as he believes he did all that could be expected of him this year. Maybe he'll set his target on getting 3ppg next year.

If McDavid ever does learn to become a complete playoff performer, like Toews, Crosby or Yzerman, he'll likely spend less time crying and more time celebrating, but in that team's culture I doubt he ever learns to make that change. In Oilers culture, chasing scoring titles will still be the number one goal.
Heres the thing though, those guys had the luxury of changing their style of play because they had depth and support.

In the culture of that Edmonton team, if McDavid doesnt do it, it doesnt get done.

That team, for all of their outrageously high draft picks, is pathetically thin.
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Lol!!

Could not get out of town quick enough.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1292194166600957952
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Lol!!

Could not get out of town quick enough.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1292194166600957952
Poor Oilers. They were in Edmonton all year, the season got paused and they peaced out...then they were forced to come back for a few days to be publicly humiliated and now they've gone home again.

Think of all of that work in training camp...for this.

Toews and Kane sent them all home without even breaking a sweat.
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Well im guessing he cares since he spent 200 million dollars on them, was a life long fan of theirs, and would make far more money if they played in the playoffs more than once every 13 years.

Yeah he leveraged ownership of the club into a real estate development, but that doesn't preclude him from wanting to have a winning hockey club and wondering WTF is going on as to why that isnt occurring.
Well. Look. Theres a lot of things one can say about Katz. Keep in mind I dont know him at all, but inferences can be made.

1. He's probably not an idiot.

2. Edmontonian politicians are idiots.

3. He used the Oilers to tug at Edmontonian heart-strings to get an enormous land deal which has repaid his investment several fold.

4. Oilers fans (Tier 1) are idiots. They keep buying Season tickets regardless of price or quality of product.

5. Oilers fans (Tiers 2 and lower) are idiots. They keep buying tickets to see this team regardless of of price or quality of product and either live or on TV...sometimes they've even bought tickets to watch the Team in the arena, on TV.

Sure, he'd probably love to have his team in the playoffs and winning, the playoffs are largely profit, but it really doesnt matter much withing context.

NHL teams dont really make a lot of money off of operations, rather in increase in value of assets.

So yes, his land bequeathment from the City of Edmonton has probably been worth more than any operational profits he had or could have made even if the Oilers went all the way every year.

Make no mistake about it, the Winner of 'Katz buying the Oilers' is and was always going to be Katz himself.

As much as he may profess to love Edmonton despite never spending a second there he doesnt absolutely have to, what he loves more than Edmonton is stealing Edmontonians' money.
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Heres the thing though, those guys had the luxury of changing their style of play because they had depth and support.

In the culture of that Edmonton team, if McDavid doesnt do it, it doesnt get done.

That team, for all of their outrageously high draft picks, is pathetically thin.
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Well im guessing he cares since he spent 200 million dollars on them, was a life long fan of theirs, and would make far more money if they played in the playoffs more than once every 13 years.

Yeah he leveraged ownership of the club into a real estate development, but that doesn't preclude him from wanting to have a winning hockey club and wondering WTF is going on as to why that isnt occurring.
It doesn't preclude it, but I doubt it's nearly as important as their fans thought when he bought them. I think the him not acting on clear management problems after more than a dozen years as owner lends itself to one more than the other.
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