02-09-2007, 06:39 AM
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Cop hooker drug party alleged - for research?
http://calgarysun.canoe.ca/NewsStand...67974-sun.html
The Edmonton Police Service has launched an internal investigation into allegations aboriginal sex-trade workers were recruited to get high on drugs so they could be studied by cops in a training exercise. The training was aimed at helping police enforce proposed federal laws that would would target drivers impaired by drugs, say officials.
More here:
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmo...68065-sun.html
The training was aimed at helping police enforce proposed federal laws that would would target drivers who are impaired by drugs, say officials.
...the subjects had been recruited at the request of police by an Edmonton social worker who helps reform street prostitutes and is connected to the Metis Child and Family Services Society, Edmonton.
The training took place at the Metis society...and involved 24 sworn police officers, including EPS and RCMP, as well as a Crown prosecutor, an EPS spokesman confirmed.
Sources say the subjects got high and were then observed by cops. The women were familiar with the Metis social agency because they'd been assisted by the organization to help clean up their acts and get off the streets.
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"This required police authorization for them to secure their own illegal drugs ... and have police look the other way while they injected snorted or smoked them to get high."
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Kate Quinn, executive director of the Prostitution Awareness and Action Foundation of Edmonton told the Sun her agency had nothing to do with the operation and didn't know about it ahead of time. "The only approved formal court diversion program is our program and we had no knowledge this research project was taking place," said Quinn.
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02-09-2007, 08:12 AM
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If this is in fact the case, this is one of the most horrifying public scandals I can think of in recent Alberta history. That is the sort of thing that could make me ashamed to tell people I am from Alberta.
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02-09-2007, 08:17 AM
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Yes, it doesn't look very good, at all. What were people thinking?
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02-09-2007, 09:37 AM
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As the 4-H moto goes. Learn to do by doing.
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02-09-2007, 10:02 AM
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lol...i gota go to edmonton...
jk
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02-09-2007, 10:09 AM
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Free drugs? Where do I sign up?
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Bleeding the Flaming C!!!
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02-09-2007, 10:36 AM
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what's the problem? they're gonna do them anyway.. might as well see what it does to a person rather than reading about it. we're too uptight in this world.
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02-09-2007, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fizzydrink
what's the problem? they're gonna do them anyway.. might as well see what it does to a person rather than reading about it. we're too uptight in this world.
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One thing with this I think is that they just appeared to "do it", with only those who did it knowing about it (if I read that wrong, feel free to correct me)...and when you put that next to this:
Langford said the women "were part of a court diversion program" and that they volunteered to be a part of the police training program.
Kate Quinn, executive director of the Prostitution Awareness and Action Foundation of Edmonton told the Sun her agency had nothing to do with the operation and didn't know about it ahead of time. "The only approved formal court diversion program is our program and we had no knowledge this research project was taking place," said Quinn.
Next, I think these points sum things up on another issues...
"Many ethical questions are involved in this, namely procuring the use of marginalized women who are valued so little," the whistle-blower told the Sun.
The tipster begged to differ: "The people these girls are supposed to trust to take care of them have turned around and used them as guinea pigs."
She questioned whether a training operation was helpful to the women's recovery. "How would participating help (the women) or impact them?" asked Quinn.
"Many ethical questions are involved in this, namely procuring the use of marginalized women who are valued so little," the whistle-blower told the Sun. "This required police authorization for them to secure their own illegal drugs ... and have police look the other way while they injected, snorted or smoked them to get high."
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02-09-2007, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
If this is in fact the case, this is one of the most horrifying public scandals I can think of in recent Alberta history. That is the sort of thing that could make me ashamed to tell people I am from Alberta.
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Holy Overreaction-city, Batman!
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02-09-2007, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Flamer
Free drugs? Where do I sign up?
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My thought exactly. They could have easily recruited a few people to do this for free. Although, I guess these women did it for free. The only problem I see is if they forced them or chose them based only on their aboriginal heritage.
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02-09-2007, 11:05 AM
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Has Towel, Will Travel
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Something doesn't seem right about this report. I'd caution readers to keep in mind that the media often doesn't get the story right. I know a person on the Edmonton Police Commission ... I'll see if he/she is willing to comment on the incident.
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02-09-2007, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ford Prefect
Something doesn't seem right about this report. I'd caution readers to keep in mind that the media often doesn't get the story right. I know a person on the Edmonton Police Commission ... I'll see if he/she is willing to comment on the incident.
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Interesting, you may or may not be on to something. From a radio station in Edmonton...
http://www.630ched.com/news/news_loc...news_local.cfm
Police officers contacted by CHED News for reaction said they'd never heard of the incident and said they'd have a hard time believing events happened as reported.
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02-09-2007, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
If this is in fact the case, this is one of the most horrifying public scandals I can think of in recent Alberta history. That is the sort of thing that could make me ashamed to tell people I am from Alberta.
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Who said anything about Alberta? We are talking about Edmonton.....
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02-09-2007, 12:42 PM
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Has Towel, Will Travel
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I spoke with the person I know on the Edmonton Police Commission, and while he/she didn't have conclusive information one way or the other about this incident, he/she said there are many details to the story that don't square with what he/she knows. Some of the details that don't square are logistical ... procedural details. One thing that was mentioned that's interesting is that the reporter is the same one who was involved with the stakeout/impaired driving sting operation a couple years ago. That raises questions about how objective he might be regarding the Edmonton Police Service therefore, even if it's on a sub-conscious level.
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02-09-2007, 04:03 PM
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Kerry Diotte...trying to force his way into the spotlight again I see??
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02-09-2007, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan
Kerry Diotte...trying to force his way into the spotlight again I see??
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I think that pretty much sums it up alright.
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02-09-2007, 04:32 PM
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A lot of the media here, is really anti-police. It's just a joke. 630 CHED is the only media outlet that is on side with the EPS the majority of the time.
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02-09-2007, 05:10 PM
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I just finished watching global, apparently this is all bull**** and the facts reported in this story are completely incorrect.
Looks like someone is going to have to print a retraction.
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02-09-2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
I just finished watching global, apparently this is all bull**** and the facts reported in this story are completely incorrect.
Looks like someone is going to have to print a retraction.
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Diotte and the Sun should be sued for libel. The media shouldn't be able to get away with crap like that. The person I know on the police commission said that likely wouldn't happen though because it just furthers the perception that the EPS are out to get Diotte. I'm a member of the media (I publish a national magazine) and I am ashamed of most media members and agencies. There are some good ones, but too many make me embarassed to be a member of the profession.
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02-09-2007, 06:14 PM
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I don't read the Sun, but I think I'll be buying it for the next little while to see what Diotte has to say now.
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