07-29-2020, 09:44 PM
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#81
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Flames won the first game against Colorado.
So ... there is that.
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So did Dallas, St Louis, SJ, NYI and Columbus. Five out of eight of the first round series in the 2019 playoffs were won by the Game 1 winners.
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07-29-2020, 09:46 PM
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#82
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yes... obviously. But first, the comment I was responding to was about the first game in a seven game series. Second, the question isn't whether you're going to win more than 65% of the time by winning the first game of the series, but whether winning the first game gives you a better chance of winning the series than you would have if the results of games were completely random...
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The only person in this thread asking that question is you.
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07-29-2020, 09:46 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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... which is 62.5%. So, less than expected for a team that has to win 3 of 6. So winning the first game in those series conveyed no special advantage.
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07-29-2020, 09:48 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
The only person in this thread asking that question is you.
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Then why do people keep harping on how it's so important to win the first game of a series when it doesn't matter any more than the other games? It's the same thing as saying "if you want to win the series you need to win games". It's a worthlessly obvious thing to say.
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07-29-2020, 09:50 PM
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#85
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Then why do people keep harping on how it's so important to win the first game of a series when it doesn't matter any more than the other games? It's the same thing as saying "if you want to win the series you need to win games". It's a worthlessly obvious thing to say.
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I see you arguing that winning Game 1 is unimportant, but I hardly think that anyone else is especially convinced. When the majority of Game 1 winners go on to win a seven game series I think it is abundantly clear that it is better to win that game than not to.
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07-29-2020, 09:53 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
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Yes. It's better to win ANY game in the series than not to. It would be utterly idiotic to try to pass that off as analysis. I'm arguing that game 1 isn't especially important compared to, say, game 2. And the real world results bear that out. Yet people always talk about the importance of the first game as if it's somehow special. It is not.
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07-29-2020, 09:54 PM
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#87
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
... which is 62.5%. So, less than expected for a team that has to win 3 of 6. So winning the first game in those series conveyed no special advantage.
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I get what you are saying.
One thing to calculate is how many teams that win the first game but then lose the 2nd game go on to win the series?
There are other things that skew the percentages. Is there a home ice advantage? What are the percentages for the higher ranked team to win the first game? What are the percentages when the higher rank team loses the first game.
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07-29-2020, 09:59 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Winnipeg takes a 2-0 lead from Ehlers
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07-29-2020, 09:59 PM
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#89
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Winnipeg scored to make it 2-0. Looked like Ehlers.
I have been watching the game off and on. The Jets look structured and patient. But then again, I am unconvinced that Vancouver is much of a threat in this play-in round. They were playing craptacular hockey for weeks leading up to the stoppage.
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07-29-2020, 10:00 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
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Kulikov scores, now 3-0. Jets have really picked it up and the Canucks have lost their jump.
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07-29-2020, 10:00 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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3-0 Jets. Making the Canucks look bad now.
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07-29-2020, 10:01 PM
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#92
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
3-0 Jets. Making the Canucks look bad now.
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It's not hard. The Canucks are bad.
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07-29-2020, 10:04 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
It's not hard. The Canucks are bad.
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I'm not a believer as I think the Wild could take them pretty easily.
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07-29-2020, 10:04 PM
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#94
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
It's not hard. The Canucks are bad.
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So are the Jets.
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07-29-2020, 10:04 PM
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#95
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I'm not a believer as I think the Wild could take them pretty easily.
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Agreed.
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07-29-2020, 10:08 PM
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#96
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Franchise Player
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It's not terribly different from the Flames / Jets series. You've got a generally bad 5 on 5 team with a thin defense and some good offensive weapons that can punish you on the PP and a really good goalie, against a team that's more solid top to bottom and a very strong blue line, but with some questions in goal and occasional difficulties with producing goals.
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07-29-2020, 10:08 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
So are the Jets.
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They have had some defensive breakdowns but they have finish and elite goaltending which makes them scary.
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07-29-2020, 10:18 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
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Is Burkie confused? Asked if the ice would be problem he said they played multiple games there during the Olympics in 2010.
Maybe I missed something.
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07-29-2020, 10:19 PM
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#99
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chummer
Is Burkie confused? Asked if the ice would be problem he said they played multiple games there during the Olympics in 2010.
Maybe I missed something.
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In a single arena
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07-29-2020, 10:21 PM
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#100
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First Line Centre
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Colby needs to fire his makeup artist... or hire one...
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