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Old 07-27-2020, 11:46 AM   #141
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Another Classy move by the Coyotes:



Imagine your boss asking you to declare commitment to your company at a staff meeting after finding out you interviewed with another company.
That sounds a lot like Joe McCarthy demanding that people sign 'Loyalty Oaths.'
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Just imagine if Chiarelli was hired and actually did a decent after leaving the Oilers.
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Old 07-27-2020, 12:24 PM   #143
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Another Classy move by the Coyotes:



Imagine your boss asking you to declare commitment to your company at a staff meeting after finding out you interviewed with another company.
That's just running the business like a family.

I know that, growing up, my dad would demand everyone around the table declare their commitment to the family before having dinner.

It was a breath of fresh air. Refreshing to see, really.
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Old 07-27-2020, 12:26 PM   #144
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A lot going on here, but this part really threw me for a loop.

I get it, they feel they have to say that but come on! Talk about a load of BS.
to be fair, those 8 Yotes fans are a dedicated bunch.
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That's just running the business like a family.

I know that, growing up, my dad would demand everyone around the table declare their commitment to the family before having dinner.

It was a breath of fresh air. Refreshing to see, really.
Did you have any other rituals? Everyone perhaps pouring some blood into a cup, mixing everyone's together and then all being required to take a sip?

Perhaps drawings or important iconography?

Were there a lot of candles in your home?
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It's just craziness. Yeah you'e disappointed that your guy wants to leave to do something else but that happens. In all facets of life.

Now I'm sure his employment contract has a non-compete should he resign. Their efforts should be focused on enforcing that, or extracting some type of compensation in order to forgive it. vs. trying to publicly humiliate him.
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Old 07-27-2020, 12:48 PM   #147
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That's just running the business like a family.

I know that, growing up, my dad would demand everyone around the table declare their commitment to the family before having dinner.

It was a breath of fresh air. Refreshing to see, really.
LOL. Someone needs to check in on any ex girlfriends/boyfriends of the owners and this CEO.
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It's not like Chayka is irreplaceable. He has shown to be an average GM at best.


I can't help but think that the rumour that the owners went over Chayka to try and negotiate an extension with Hall has a little part in all this. I've had bosses micromanage and it's annoying, especially when you see them making mistakes and can't do anything about it.
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That's just running the business like a family.

I know that, growing up, my dad would demand everyone around the table declare their commitment to the family before having dinner.

It was a breath of fresh air. Refreshing to see, really.

Did he like to talk about baseball? Did you forget to put quotes around family?



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It's not like Chayka is irreplaceable. He has shown to be an average GM at best.


I can't help but think that the rumour that the owners went over Chayka to try and negotiate an extension with Hall has a little part in all this. I've had bosses micromanage and it's annoying, especially when you see them making mistakes and can't do anything about it.
That's not it chief.

He was out before that meeting
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Pagnotta was just commenting about this on the radio. He thinks that Chayka had permission to talk to the Devils. Chayka didn't see a scenario where he would leave Arizona but then the Devils put an amazing offer in front of him. Arizona ownership felt NJ went beyond what they had permission to talk to Chayka about. Chayka decided he wanted out.
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The thing that gets me is Chayka being willing to finish out the season and be with the team in Edmonton for as long as they're in it as long as there was some transition plan in place by which he would hand over the reigns to Sullivan on a set timeline. The Coyotes didn't want to talk about succession until the playoffs were over.

Call me crazy but a gradual succession plan that allows the GM to stay with the team and doesn't create this sideshow sounds like a pretty good option. I just don't understand why that wasn't a basis for compromise.
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Pagnotta was just commenting about this on the radio. He thinks that Chayka had permission to talk to the Devils. Chayka didn't see a scenario where he would leave Arizona but then the Devils put an amazing offer in front of him. Arizona ownership felt NJ went beyond what they had permission to talk to Chayka about. Chayka decided he wanted out.
Ding ding ding.

The team believed that Chayka's intention was to build relationships around the league. Something he said that previous owners permitted him to do. Then he got the offer, got greedy and surprised the team with his intention to leave.

The team invested in him long term, which he accepted in November. He basically lied about the whole "Building relationship" angle from what I hear and wanted to be out east to begin with.
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The thing that gets me is Chayka being willing to finish out the season and be with the team in Edmonton for as long as they're in it as long as there was some transition plan in place by which he would hand over the reigns to Sullivan on a set timeline. The Coyotes didn't want to talk about succession until the playoffs were over.

Call me crazy but a gradual succession plan that allows the GM to stay with the team and doesn't create this sideshow sounds like a pretty good option. I just don't understand why that wasn't a basis for compromise.
Because he has a multi-year contract that the team wanted him to contractually honor.
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Because he has a multi-year contract that the team wanted him to contractually honor.
Why want an employee who doesn’t want to work for you any longer?
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And, if looking at it from the other side, who wouldn't take or even listen to a much better career opportunity out of respect for their current employer?
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Not sure why Coyotes owners are mad? If they wanted him to stay so badly then don’t grant permission to the the other team to talk to your guy.
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Why want an employee who doesn’t want to work for you any longer?
Why bother with a contract? If another organization is trying to snag an asset from you that you invest in.. wouldn't you want to be compensated in some manner? At least? or expect your asset to honor their end of the deal?
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Not sure why Coyotes owners are mad? If they wanted him to stay so badly then don’t grant permission to the the other team to talk to your guy.
Hey sold it as relationship building.. the ownership trusted him and he lied about it.
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Why bother with a contract? If another organization is trying to snag an asset from you that you invest in.. wouldn't you want to be compensated in some manner? At least? or expect your asset to honor their end of the deal?
I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. I am pretty sure a lot of hockey op contracts have clauses that people can move on as long as it isn't a lateral move. I guess it will be up to Bettman to rule on if the new position is lateral or not. If it includes a tie in to the NFL or Premiere league then I don't see how it can be considered lateral.
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