2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[dino7c]

debating something that has a 1% chance of happening lol

[TheScorpion]

I really feel like the issue in AZ is more with coaching. The Coyotes play terrific defensive hockey but they can't score worth a damn despite the GM acquiring some seriously talented offensive players. Kessel, Hall, Schmaltz, Keller, Stepan, Soderberg, Dvorak, Garland, Grabner... these guys are all good players but it's just not clicking for whatever reason. I find it hard to fault the GM for their lack of execution. I think he's done well in a really hard market to operate inside.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

In the hypothetical scenario Hall has already been signed because his rights were traded for.

I guess in this case, trade Gaudreau and drop Mangiapane to the 3rd line.


I don't think we could get much of an upgrade at C in this scenario, due to the salary cap, so maybe acquire a right shot RW?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dino7c

debating something that has a 1% chance of happening lol

Yeah, it’s fun.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

debating something that has a 1% chance of happening lol

Haha, what else is there to do until they start playing?

I mean we could get back to discussing whether or not Bennett is getting a fair shake...

[Roof-Daddy]

So using my hypothetical, I say keep all the main players, move Lindholm to C and take a run at it for one season..or maybe even two, as all the RFA's would be depth players and the only big UFA would be Ryan after year one...it's a lot of left shots, but what the heck...

Sam Bennett for Madison Bowey (Re-sign 2 x $2,000,000 AAV)
Oliver Kylington for Christian Fischer (Re-sign Fischer to his QO of $874,125 AAV)

Hall is signed for 7 years x $7,750,000 AAV

Re-sign Mangiapane 2 x $2,250,000 AAV
Re-sign Gawdin to his QO of $787,500 AAV

Re-sign UFA's Rinaldo and Stone (or vet comparables) to league min 1 x $750,000

J. Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Matthew Tkachuk
Taylor Hall - Elias Lindholm - A. Mangiapane
A. Lafreniere - Mikael Backlund - Dillon Dube
Milan Lucic - Derek Ryan - Christian Fischer

Rinaldo/Gawdin

Mark Giordano - Rasmus Andersson
Noah Hanifin - Madison Bowey
Jusso Valimaki - Michael Stone

Connor Mackey

David Rittich
XXXXXXXX

Leaves $2,449,209 to sign a back-up/platoon goalie

That'd be fun for a season or maybe two...

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Don't value the pick position, look at it from who's available 1 to 3.

There are MANY cases of 1st overall picks (Outside of the Franchise players who were slotted in that spot for years) who end up being not as good as those selected 2-5.

Laf is not going to be a Franchise winger here, and the 2 centers set to go behind him likely will be the smarter picks. I mean.. Byfield was just as close to go #1 overall anyway for most of last year and the first 1/4 this year. I think his poor showing at the WJHC set him back a bit even though he was an underage player people expected to see more.

While I am not opposed to trading down if we get #1, why would playing for the Flames mean Laf will not become a franchise winger?

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by dino7c

debating something that has a 1% chance of happening lol

Isn't it more like 6.25% at this point? Which isn't far off our best chances from the down years (8-10%ish)

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Isn't it more like 6.25% at this point? Which isn't far off our best chances from the down years (8-10%ish)

The chances of Hall signing and getting first overall are much lower than that

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The chances of Hall signing and getting first overall are much lower than that

The chances are 50%.

Either they happen...or they don't.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The chances are 50%.

Either they happen...or they don't.

great, gonna buy a lottery ticket

50/50

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The chances are 50%.

Either they happen...or they don't.

If appears we have a cohort for ricardodw to share stats with.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

How is saying a large number of the board will make an oncoming player a whipping boy degrading the community? It has happened time and time again. You have a list of members you disagree with that you attack on here time and time again because they have differing opinions. That is fine for a regular poster but makes the site look pretty bad coming from a moderator. Whenever anyone has a differing opinion about the physicality of the game which is a touchy subject for you or other things you make baseless accusations and go on a tangent. That is also irritating. Again, if you don't like my opinion there is the ignore button. Now I am through with this. Now TOfan or someone else will break board rules and personally attack me and you will look the other way. Rinse and repeat.

I haven’t made any personal attacks, certainly no more than you have towards me. I’ve just pointed out, and disagreed, with the ridiculous ill informed things you have said such as:

Taylor Hall is dumb
Taylor Hall is a quitter
Taylor Hall has only had one good season
Brad Treliving should be fired if he doesn’t do something
Compliance buyouts have nothing to do with the CBA
Jeff Skinner will certainly be a compliance buyout
Smaller market NHL teams will literally fold.


All this within the last season. There’s some things in there that are flat out wrong, or some pretty low rent takes. And it’s not that you’ve said these things, it’s you’ve said them in a way that they’re fact and anyone who disagrees is a fool. Be better man.

It’s funny you look down your nose at Eric Francis because it seems like you’re cut from the same ‘hot take’ cloth. At least he gets paid, probably very well, to do it and probably knows that is his shtick. I don’t care for his stuff either. Getting riled up, or even acknowledging his content, is kind of like booing Bobby the brain Heenan. Why? Who cares?

It’s also funny that you like to throw out every now and again that something you’ve read here is so stupid that it would only belongs on HF boards. People who post here are just as smart, or stupid, as any other fan base you will find anywhere.

You should probably get off the imaginary pedestal you’ve put yourself on.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

great, gonna buy a lottery ticket

50/50

Originally Posted by timbit

If appears we have a cohort for ricardodw to share stats with.

Exactly. lol

[AC]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1287467614294249472

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by AC

https://twitter.com/user/status/1287467614294249472

IMO, that is his actual value. No respectable agent is going to let a client sign for their actual value.

[SnipeShow]

Originally Posted by AC

https://twitter.com/user/status/1287467614294249472

Wow... If that's really the case that shouldn't be hard to beat

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[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I haven’t made any personal attacks, certainly no more than you have towards me. I’ve just pointed out, and disagreed, with the ridiculous ill informed things you have said such as:

Taylor Hall is dumb
Taylor Hall is a quitter
Taylor Hall has only had one good season
Brad Treliving should be fired if he doesn’t do something
Compliance buyouts have nothing to do with the CBA
Jeff Skinner will certainly be a compliance buyout
Smaller market NHL teams will literally fold.


All this within the last season. There’s some things in there that are flat out wrong, or some pretty low rent takes. And it’s not that you’ve said these things, it’s you’ve said them in a way that they’re fact and anyone who disagrees is a fool. Be better man.

It’s funny you look down your nose at Eric Francis because it seems like you’re cut from the same ‘hot take’ cloth. At least he gets paid, probably very well, to do it and probably knows that is his shtick. I don’t care for his stuff either. Getting riled up, or even acknowledging his content, is kind of like booing Bobby the brain Heenan. Why? Who cares?

It’s also funny that you like to throw out every now and again that something you’ve read here is so stupid that it would only belongs on HF boards. People who post here are just as smart, or stupid, as any other fan base you will find anywhere.

You should probably get off the imaginary pedestal you’ve put yourself on.

Good God you are just obsessed aren't you? Like a 13 year old girl following Justin Bieber on Twitter. If you are actually an adult it is pretty scary. Every post I make you attack me. Get a new hobby.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

IMO, that is his actual value. No respectable agent is going to let a client sign for their actual value.

Not saying I disagree (because of the flat cap). But it's crazy that Hall would make less than Keller, who I'd argue had not really been earning his contract.

[Monahammer]

I think if we can sign hall to 8x6 that is a good contract moving forward.