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Old 07-16-2020, 02:51 PM   #41
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That was a ridiculous report. The Vancouver media guy should be publically shamed.

I think it's almost a guarantee that Dube and Robinson had a positive test, and the 2nd smaller group were all exposed to one or both of those 2 but haven't tested positive themselves, so they are taking precautions by separating them for now.
He obviously got the rumour from someone in NHL circles but seeing how he works for Rogers you would think that he would at least confirm the rumour with the Calgary 960 guys before airing it on his show which is broadcasted in Calgary. For the record I think Rintoul is miles better than anyone on 960 but this one is a bit of a blunder for sure.
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Wasn't sure where to put this. Basically, experts are slamming the NHL and NHLPA for holding training camps in COVID hotspots like the Southern US:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-training-camp...-say-1.1496246



Hard to disagree. I'lll bet Bettman is holding his breath until he can get everyone into Edmonton and Toronto...
It was and is Trumpian levels of stupidity. Same with the MLB and NBA. The decision making is mind bottling.
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Old 07-16-2020, 02:55 PM   #43
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Wasn't sure where to put this. Basically, experts are slamming the NHL and NHLPA for holding training camps in COVID hotspots like the Southern US:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-training-camp...-say-1.1496246



Hard to disagree. I'lll bet Bettman is holding his breath until he can get everyone into Edmonton and Toronto...
Unfortunately it is a two way street. There was a report that the Lightning's owner offered to put up the Lightning players and their families in a hotel he owned to create their own private bubble for phase 3. The players declined the offer.
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Old 07-16-2020, 03:13 PM   #44
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He obviously got the rumour from someone in NHL circles but seeing how he works for Rogers you would think that he would at least confirm the rumour with the Calgary 960 guys before airing it on his show which is broadcasted in Calgary. For the record I think Rintoul is miles better than anyone on 960 but this one is a bit of a blunder for sure.
Pretty sure Rintoul said it was pure speculation on his part.
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Pretty sure Rintoul said it was pure speculation on his part.
Horrible job by Rintoul. “Speculation” just to get more hits and plays.
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Wasn't sure where to put this. Basically, experts are slamming the NHL and NHLPA for holding training camps in COVID hotspots like the Southern US:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-training-camp...-say-1.1496246



Hard to disagree. I'lll bet Bettman is holding his breath until he can get everyone into Edmonton and Toronto...
Didn't the players demand training camps at home as not to extend time from their families? If true, I put the blame on the players, not the league.
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Pretty sure Rintoul said it was pure speculation on his part.

Rintoul's segment on it today involved 15 minutes of talking in circles, then noting that he's not going to speculate. All due respect to him, but it was very much an intellectually dishonest exercise.
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Rintoul, Francis, Dreger, sports "commentators" of their ilk are pathetic and rather annoying to listen to. They are clearly clueless.
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Dr. Jeffrey Kwong, an epidemiologist from the Dalla Lama School of Public Health in Toronto, called the NHL decision “mindboggling.”

I assume most Canadians already know this, but reading that quote and because I've had some positive interactions with the Dalla Lana family, I feel a need to point out that while the guy on the right has a lot going for him, the guy on the left is the philanthropic Toronto hospital guy.

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I've been here for 12 years now...

Though I will say that you could not pay me enough to live in Edmonton proper.
I live so far in the east, I'm almost out of town.
Been here since 2016.
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Friedman's educated guess is that at least one Flames player tested positive and the Flames are isolating one group who may have been in contact with said player(s). Which is why there is no crossover between the two groups. Starts around the 3 minute mark:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1283894546779316224
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I'm pretty sure that's everyone's educated guess, except for one lunatic in Vancouver trying to stir some ####.
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^ Yup, it's the only logical reason behind the series of events and the specific language used by Ward and Treliving about the groups.

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I think it's almost a guarantee that Dube and Robinson had a positive test, and the 2nd smaller group were all exposed to one or both of those 2 but haven't tested positive themselves, so they are taking precautions by separating them for now.
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You know what would end the speculation: telling us exactly why the groups are split. It's not that hard.

I've said it before but I find the communications strategy from our club baffling 99% of the time.
The club always seems to act as if they're being spied on. Some things are worth keeping hushed about, this isn't one. If anything secrecy is just causing unnecessary issues.
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Old 07-16-2020, 06:17 PM   #57
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The club always seems to act as if they're being spied on. Some things are worth keeping hushed about, this isn't one. If anything secrecy is just causing unnecessary issues.
Again it’s part of the deal between the league and players
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Old 07-16-2020, 06:27 PM   #58
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The real controversy should be over Johnny's hair.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1283912811874095105

Leslie asks him if he has a man bun or pony tail, Johnny laughed and said he hasn't been able to go to a barbe, plus his niece wanted to dye their hair blue together and it just got bleached instead in spots. So he has a man bun / pony tail combo with highlights.
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^ Yup, it's the only logical reason behind the series of events and the specific language used by Ward and Treliving about the groups.
This is the Phase 3 protocol for anyone who was in close contact with someone in the 48 hours prior to that person testing positive. It's hard to believe that the issue is anything other than this...
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In the event of an initial positive finding for COVID-19 for a person covered by this Protocol (“Index Person”):
  • Club Medical, with their ID expert, shall conduct a contact tracing immediately upon receiving the Index Person’s first positive test, which shall done in conjunction with, and pursuant to, regulations from local health authorities (if any), to determine whether other Players or any other person that had access to the training facility had “close contact” with the Index Person.
    • The team physician or infectious disease expert may also seek to identify other people, not covered by this Protocol, who have been in contact with the Index Person, including family and other household members, as appropriate and consistent with, regulations of local health authorities.
  • Any such person shall be considered to be a “Close Contact” if they have been in contact for 15 minutes or longer at 6 feet or less with the Index Person (regardless of whether facial protection is worn) in the 48 hour period leading up to the time the Index Person’s test was taken (if asymptomatic), or 48 hours prior to the onset of symptoms in the Index Person.
  • Close Contacts shall be tested immediately through the administration of a RT-PCR test.

Close Contacts whose test results are positive for COVID-19 shall:
  • be subject to the provisions of Section G(1) of this Protocol regarding test confirmation and isolation.

Close Contacts who test negative for COVID-19 shall:
  • be subject to daily symptom and temperature monitoring and daily PCR testing for 14 days; and
  • shall not be subject to quarantine provided that the following conditions are satisfied for such 14 day period:
    1. The person remains asymptomatic and afebrile (free of fever), and
    2. The results of PCR testing are negative on each occasion.
  • NOTE: In the event that the Index Person is subsequently found to be negative on confirmatory testing, the Close Contact measures no longer apply.
During the 14-day period described above, the Close Contact shall be reminded of their obligations to observe the requirements regarding social distancing and use of PPE.

Upon developing any symptoms consistent with COVID-19 or if any PCR test results return positive, the Close Contact shall be required to immediately end their participation in any Club activity, shall self-isolate, shall contact the Club physician and, thereafter, shall be subject to the applicable provisions of this Protocol.
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Been here since 2016.
Its not so bad minus the occasional band of knuckle draggers
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