Official WWE/ECW/WCW/TNA talk, or whatever v2

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Realistically Orton and HHH should be a bit worried right now. Some of the things that they did to woman back stage was pretty gross.

Paul was never a big deal. And then Shawn and Randy have both been super forward about the awful stuff they've done. Unless they've out and out raped somebody that no one's come forward about yet, I don't think there is anything that will come forward that won't have the response of, "yeah, we know."

[CaptainCrunch]

Tessa Blanchard was terminated by TNA and stripped of the World Championship. There had been accusations of racism and bullying in her past.

[CaptainCrunch]

AEW's go home show this week garnered the lowest numbers in Dynamites history


https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...ership-671808/


They garnered 663,000 viewers down from 772,000 votes last year.


NXT had 786,000 viewers this week, up from 746,000 viewers last week.


This weeks Raw drew 1.93 million viewers which was about the same as last week. The problem is that Raw dropped through the floor in the third hour going from 2 million in hour 1 down to 1.73 in hour 3


Smackdown drew 2.08 million viewers, but again they dropped like a stone in the second hour. losing 100,000 viewers.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Tessa Blanchard was terminated by TNA and stripped of the World Championship. There had been accusations of racism and bullying in her past.

And they put the title on her. Then she ####ed off and they fired her for no-showing

[Scorch]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Regarding AEW. I watch every week as much as I can, and all I pine for is more Evil Uno. That guy is so underrated - great character, solid mic work, and fantastic in-ring psychology. Plus the fact that he's built like a pear makes him all the more hilarious.

Par down The Dark Order to Lee, Uno, and #10, and you've got a solid three-man stable.

I really wished they didn’t introduce Brodie Lee or even an Exalted one. How you described Evil Uno is why I think he should’ve just stayed as the main guy for the Dark Order. Now his role is diminished in favour for Brodie Lee and now it’s just a stupid mess with AEW bookers rushing the Mox vs Lee feud and they’re doing a lame Colt Cobana recruiting storyline

[PeteMoss]

Whenever I watch AEW, I think they need better agents or something even outside the bookers. They push tag team wrestling but you have these weird matches where for half of it there are no rules and you can double team endlessly, and then the other half you need to be out of the ring at 5.

During the young bucks match last week that ended in the brawl with a bunch of teams, it looked like a high school skit where someone forgot their line and the other person was telling them to run in.

Complaining about this may mean I'm an old man I realize.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Whenever I watch AEW, I think they need better agents or something even outside the bookers. They push tag team wrestling but you have these weird matches where for half of it there are no rules and you can double team endlessly, and then the other half you need to be out of the ring at 5.

During the young bucks match last week that ended in the brawl with a bunch of teams, it looked like a high school skit where someone forgot their line and the other person was telling them to run in.

Complaining about this may mean I'm an old man I realize.

You and I are on the same page on that, it is an issue to me because old guy or not you have to remember WCW and sometimes it feels like the whole booking on a fly throw stuff at the wall to see if it sticks moments.


They have a talented roster, its bloated but talented, the woman's division is progressing, but I want them to sign Conti, just because I think she's awesome. But I expect that Blanchard will be on the way.


I think the writing and booking and the broadcast crew is really letting what could be a great product down.


We're seeing declining numbers across the board for wrestling, none of the organizations are getting it right.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

AEW's go home show this week garnered the lowest numbers in Dynamites history


https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...ership-671808/


They garnered 663,000 viewers down from 772,000 votes last year.


NXT had 786,000 viewers this week, up from 746,000 viewers last week.


This weeks Raw drew 1.93 million viewers which was about the same as last week. The problem is that Raw dropped through the floor in the third hour going from 2 million in hour 1 down to 1.73 in hour 3


Smackdown drew 2.08 million viewers, but again they dropped like a stone in the second hour. losing 100,000 viewers.

Dynamite's card was super weak on paper. The most enjoyable match of the show was the hoss fight between Wardlow and Luchasaurus. And to be fair, that match was effing awesome.

[Muta]

Yeah, Wardlow doing that hurricarana surprised that #### out of me. Same with Luchasaurus' Shooting Star Press from the stage. That match was effing awesome for sure.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

During the young bucks match last week that ended in the brawl with a bunch of teams, it looked like a high school skit where someone forgot their line and the other person was telling them to run in.

You're sure it was a Young Bucks match? That was a spot fest that made no sense? The Young Bucks? You're positive?

[CaptainCrunch]

Sounds like Velveteen Dream is about to be released.


I doubt even AEW would pick him up.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

You're sure it was a Young Bucks match? That was a spot fest that made no sense? The Young Bucks? You're positive?

The first time I saw a Youn Bucks match my buddy and I had the following conversation:

Friend: Do you know who the Young Bucks are?

MQS: I know of them, I know they're successful outside of WWE but I haven't actually seen them wrestle.

Friend: Oh, OK, let me catch you up. You know how some wrestlers and tag teams are great technicians, can really tell a story, and put on 5 star match after 5 star match?

Me: Yeah

Friend: Yeah, not that. They just run around, do a bunch of super kicks.

[CaptainCrunch]

Honestly they remind me of the Hardy's when they first broke in to the business, in that they were high spotters who couldn't tell a story to save their lives.


The Young Bucks just do spots, and half the time, there's just no flow to their matches at all.


Someone at some point grabbed the Hardy's and set them straight. Though I'm not a fan of Jeff because he's still a spin machine. Matt at some points told some good stories.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

You're sure it was a Young Bucks match? That was a spot fest that made no sense? The Young Bucks? You're positive?

I was more talking about the run ins and everyone standing around waiting for the next thing to happen. The matches are what they are, although the everyone stand in position so I can do a dive spots are terrible.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

I was more talking about the run ins and everyone standing around waiting for the next thing to happen. The matches are what they are, although the everyone stand in position so I can do a dive spots are terrible.

Its one thing that's actually irked me lately and its happening in a lot of matches and maybe we're being picky because of the lack of crowds to distract us.


But there are too many times that people are standing around waiting for the spot and it looks as phony as hell.

[Freeway]

I like the Bucks just fine, but it's very telling that the best matches they've ever had involved Kenny Omega.

[CaptainCrunch]

WWE is looking into shutting down NXT UK.

[Ozy_Flame]

If they're looking to save some bucks that's probably the best place to start. The UK wrestling scene is sort of falling into shambles at the moment. I stopped watching it at least a year ago now and don't even care one iota about it.

[CaptainCrunch]

Time of death . . .

https://twitter.com/user/status/1277806200042729472

[SuperMatt18]

That was a great move by Royce, Riot sold the hell out it too.

AEW was okay tonight. They really need to work on their spot management in tag team matches though.

Again tonight they had moments in the tag matches where people are waiting for a spot and makes the whole thing look awkward and just poorly planned.