Kent Nilsson playing with Tanguay would be fun. Not as fun as him playing with Johnny, mind you.
Honestly I think a bunch of line juggling is needed here. Put Nilsson with Gaudreau, Monahan with Tanguay and Gilmour with Tkachuk.
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His last season as a Flame he was brutal in the playoffs. Short handed goals were scored due to his lazy play in a three game sweep.
After that, the team decided they'd be a better team without Nilsson on it. They traded him for no immediate return and were a better team.
This is why I can't vote for Nilsson. He has flashy stats and was unbelievably talented, but he made the Flames a worse team.
Otto, on the other hand, is the highest scoring centre in the playoffs. He has 61 points, one ahead of Nieuwendyk. Otto also had all the intangibles. He completely neutralized Messier. He was the franchise's best faceoff man. He killed penalties. He played on the powerplay. He was an absolute warrior.
Well thats just patently false...but you do you.
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I don't think a lot of people realize the Flyers had to get big Joel Otto before someone else did, Philadelphia couldn't have a rival get him because he would've shut down Eric Lindros.
Tough choice between the single season points leader and the most games played for a Flames centre.
Really both Otto and Nilsson should be on this team over Monahan.
I know Otto has the Stanley Cup nostalgia and is a fan favourite but he only ever hit 20 goals twice and never scored more than 59 points. And he played on the best teams in Flames history in a high scoring era.
Yeah, there’s more to it than just scoring, but in my opinion people are way too hard on Monahan. There is no doubt in my mind he’s deserves that spot ahead of both of those guys. He’s exactly where he should be on the rankings.
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Well thats just patently false...but you do you.
Food for thought about his work ethics.
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During the 1981 Stanley Cup Playoffs, general manager Fletcher expressed significant disappointment with Nilsson’s playoff intensity.
“Nilsson’s got to play like he’s Bobby Smith… He’s supposed to be a better player. He’s got to show it or there’s no tomorrow” – Cliff Fletcher, Flames general manager, May 1981 (James Christie, The Globe and Mail, 7 May 1981).
Kenta drove Johnson crazy because, unlike Gretzky, he did not squeeze every drop out of his great well of talent. He eventually had Nilsson shipped out of town and the following story is a great example of why.
One night, Ron Francis and the Hartford Whalers were putting it to the Flames but good at the old Calgary Corral. It was 6-1 late in the third period and the Flames had a power play.
Nilsson quarterbacked the power play from the point and fired a shot right into Francis's shin pads. Of course, the puck rebounded back over the blue line, past Nilsson and Francis was off on a breakaway. Nilsson turned to look at Francis as he blew past him, clearly said the hell with it and declined to give chase. 7-1 Hartford.
After the game, all Johnson could talk about was that play. "Did you see Nilsson, did you see what he did?" Johnson kept saying to Simmons and Duhatschek.
So, off they went to the Flames dressing room to get Nilsson's side of things.
Nilsson looked up when the question was asked and said in his Swedish lilt, "Seex-one, seven-one, what's the difference?"
The 1982-83 season saw the arrival of Badger Bob Johnson in Calgary as the new head coach. Johnson was very upfront with Kent and told him that he must work harder and that he expected a much better work ethic from Kent. Kent never got along very well with Johnson, perhaps not surprisingly. Still Nilsson scored 104 points while playing a full 80 games.
The next two seasons Kent put up impressive numbers but everyone expect more after his 131 point season a couple of years earlier. Nilsson scored 80 and 99 points in 1983-84 and 1984-85 respectively.
After long speculation, Kent's numbered days in Calgary came to an end in June of 1985. The Flames had traded their Magic Man to Minnesota.
I know Otto has the Stanley Cup nostalgia and is a fan favourite but he only ever hit 20 goals twice and never scored more than 59 points. And he played on the best teams in Flames history in a high scoring era.
Yeah, there’s more to it than just scoring, but in my opinion people are way too hard on Monahan. There is no doubt in my mind he’s deserves that spot ahead of both of those guys. He’s exactly where he should be on the rankings.
Yeah maybe I am being too hard on Monahan and giving too much credit to Otto's cup win and games played. Not sure you can totally compare points though when Otto was forced into the 3rd line 2 way role because of the two guys ahead of him while Monahan has essentially been the #1 centre with power play time most of his career.
That said, I'm still putting Nilsson on my all time team over both of them. I don't care about his lack of team play or defensive deficiencies, he still lead the team in scoring 4 times and his record 131 point season may never be broken.
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