Minneapolis PD Suffocate Unarmed Black Man Who Later Dies in Hospital

[transplant99]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1267625149525889025

[Acey]

The replies are all in French but I am curious what the actual hell is going in France right here.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1267461739655892992

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Acey

The replies are all in French but I am curious what the actual hell is going in France right here.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1267461739655892992

If you click on the individual tweet there is a translation option:

You white you pass you black on the side #GeorgeFloyd#discrimination yesterday in Paris

[Acey]

Well yes I can see the white person passing and the black people on the side... but what is the context of that happening aside from appearing like segregation.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Next to the actual murder, that is the hardest video I’ve had to watch through all this. Being attacked like that just because she’s white. Feels like we’re moving backwards at this point.

Its all justified though!

Many in this thread wont even blink at that video.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Acey

Well yes I can see the white person passing and the black people on the side... but what is the context of that happening aside from appearing like segregation.

t was during the gathering of associations of undocumented migrants to demonstrate. They are put on the side to then join the procession.
It is clear that this is not a control.

Do not divert videos for the sole purpose of spitting on France! It is dishonest.

One of the responses.

In the thread, I am sure there are others, you just need to hit each and translate it.

[FlamesAddiction]

NSFW!

https://streamable.com/bo9mj4

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

Its all justified though!

Many in this thread wont even blink at that video.

It's a horse before the cart thing.

Yes, it's absolutely terrible and those men should be arrested (mind you, what are the chances they'd be killed by the same cops arresting them?).

But...would all the looting/violence be happening at all if this police racial discrimination did not exist? If the spark for these protests did not occur?

You reap what you sow, this is an unfortunate outcome that many protesters themselves are speaking out against (and in some videos, stopping looters/violence).

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by AC

The #blackouttuesday stuff really comes across as the laziest form of virtue signalling. The sentiment is ok, but it doesn't come across as earnest or productive to me.

The irony of everybody flooding Instagram and Facebook with the same blank posts is that it just makes the targeted advertisements really stand out.

It really is and it is goddamn infuriating how much I am seeing this, and worst part is it's always the same people doing absolutely NOTHING of value but changing profile photos and hashtagging and pretending they're championing a cause.

It is slacktivism. It's like 'thoughts and prayers'; it does nothing except make you feel like you helped. All to get your dopamine infusion, the one you get from posting the blank photo on your Instagram or Facebook, just like you did when you posted the picture of yourself on social media holding a sign at a protest for an event that occurred in an entirely different country than the one you protested in. You did nothing, but get to pretend you did something. Go you.

"BuT AwArEnEsS."

'Awareness' is pointless, we are hyper aware of what's going on, what is needed is some form of tangible contribution to work toward solving the problem. Donate to the NAACP for example. But more importantly, be an ally... when you see something, say and do something. F--king help.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

It really is and it is goddamn infuriating how much I am seeing this, and worst part is it's always the same people doing absolutely NOTHING of value but changing profile photos and hashtagging and pretending they're championing a cause.

It is slacktivism. It's like 'thoughts and prayers'; it does nothing except make you feel like you helped. All to get your dopamine infusion, the one you get from posting the blank photo on your Instagram or Facebook, just like you did when you posted the picture of yourself on social media holding a sign at a protest for an event that occurred in an entirely different country than the one you protested in. You did nothing, but get to pretend you did something. Go you.

"BuT AwArEnEsS."

'Awareness' is pointless, we are hyper aware of what's going on, what is needed is some form of tangible contribution to work toward solving the problem. Donate to the NAACP for example. But more importantly, be an ally... when you see something, say and do something. F--king help.

I think you've got it all wrong.
Awareness isn't useless; it's actually the first step in getting someone to do more.

This is a small gesture of paying attention and supporting the cause. Yes, it's not enough or the end all be all, but it's showing that people who normally wouldn't pay any attention are actually paying attention and that's a start.

I don't think I've seen this many people self reflecting on race relations in my lifetime and that's a very good thing.

If 90/100 people who make their profile black will think twice about how they interact with other races, that's a good thing.

If 10/100 of them go further and get more invested in next tier efforts of more impact, also a very good thing.

Of course more is better, but it has to start somewhere and more widespread awareness it that somewhere.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

NSFW!

https://streamable.com/bo9mj4

What the **** was that? They were just calmly tasering her every few seconds while she was completely subdued.

[calumniate]

Originally Posted by jayswin

What the **** was that? They were just calmly tasering her every few seconds while she was completely subdued.

this is a veritable powder keg.. yikes. what sad events

[81MC]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

It's a horse before the cart thing.

Yes, it's absolutely terrible and those men should be arrested (mind you, what are the chances they'd be killed by the same cops arresting them?).

The data is muddy as hell, but assuming the worst - 2000K ‘arrest related deaths’ vs 10.6 million arrests.

The chances are actually pretty low, but Id be okay if that decimal point was moved over a handful of points if you viscously attack an elder like that.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

It really is and it is goddamn infuriating how much I am seeing this, and worst part is it's always the same people doing absolutely NOTHING of value but changing profile photos and hashtagging and pretending they're championing a cause.

It is slacktivism. It's like 'thoughts and prayers'; it does nothing except make you feel like you helped. All to get your dopamine infusion, the one you get from posting the blank photo on your Instagram or Facebook, just like you did when you posted the picture of yourself on social media holding a sign at a protest for an event that occurred in an entirely different country than the one you protested in. You did nothing, but get to pretend you did something. Go you.

"BuT AwArEnEsS."

'Awareness' is pointless, we are hyper aware of what's going on, what is needed is some form of tangible contribution to work toward solving the problem. Donate to the NAACP for example. But more importantly, be an ally... when you see something, say and do something. F--king help.

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I think you've got it all wrong.
Awareness isn't useless; it's actually the first step in getting someone to do more.

This is a small gesture of paying attention and supporting the cause. Yes, it's not enough or the end all be all, but it's showing that people who normally wouldn't pay any attention are actually paying attention and that's a start.

I don't think I've seen this many people self reflecting on race relations in my lifetime and that's a very good thing.

If 90/100 people who make their profile black will think twice about how they interact with other races, that's a good thing.

If 10/100 of them go further and get more invested in next tier efforts of more impact, also a very good thing.

Of course more is better, but it has to start somewhere and more widespread awareness it that somewhere.

Awareness is fine but it has to be awareness all the time. Not just blank photo today and then nothing. Why not on another day in the future like July 12th or Nov 5th or whatever when there is no reason to. Facebook has a lot of these things that makes people feel good, remember when people had French flags on their profile picture for about 10 minutes? Why not have another random day like that. It's all look at me syndrome.

TorqueDog makes a good point, get involved, volunteer and donate time.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Awareness is fine but it has to be awareness all the time. Not just blank photo today but on another day in the future like July 12th or Nov 5th or whatever. Facebook has a lot of these things that makes people feel good, remember when people had French flags on their profile picture for about 10 minutes? Why not have another random day like that. It's all show me.



TorqueDog makes a good point, get involved, volunteer and donate time.

And speak out when you see injustice in front you. That's the hardest part to muster up the courage to speak up. But silence is consent with these things.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I think you've got it all wrong.
Awareness isn't useless; it's actually the first step in getting someone to do more.

This is a small gesture of paying attention and supporting the cause. Yes, it's not enough or the end all be all, but it's showing that people who normally wouldn't pay any attention are actually paying attention and that's a start.

I don't think I've seen this many people self reflecting on race relations in my lifetime and that's a very good thing.

If 90/100 people who make their profile black will think twice about how they interact with other races, that's a good thing.

If 10/100 of them go further and get more invested in next tier efforts of more impact, also a very good thing.

Of course more is better, but it has to start somewhere and more widespread awareness it that somewhere.

Nonsense.

A black man just got murdered by police who asphyxiated him during an arrest which was recorded and shown all over the world, over every medium; television, radio, podcasts, print and internet news, video streaming sites, social media, you name it. Popular TV talk shows have been almost exclusively talking about it for the past week. Coverage has now shifted to include the fallout; the civil unrest. People are protesting in the US and Minneapolis is on f--king fire.

But yeah, clearly 'awareness' is lacking, I need some asshat I went to high school with to virtue signal a little more before we all know what's going on.

The sort of people who still aren't aware by this point are not consuming digital or print media of any sort and in that case a blacked-out profile photo isn't doing a goddamn thing. It is lazy activism, it accomplishes bugger all except giving people their social media dopamine hit.

GirlySports and Iggy City nailed it, and I said it in my first post on the subject: people need to say something and DO SOMETHING when they are right there and have the ability to be an ally. A blank profile photo and a hashtag, sh-t, this might as well be Kony 2020.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Im not sure, regardless of his orangeness's wishes, that the military would be able to deploy anywhere except for that area around the white house.

Requests would have to come from Governors, which has never happened except for specific areas and usually around a natural disaster. The King riots was another one but that is pretty self explanatory.

Yesterday was a whole lot of bluster and tough talk that he really has no way of implementing.

Though i suppose he could get some Gov.'s like Haley on board, but even at that, it would only be a few states.

Im really not sure what the answer is but the looting and fires have to stop. They are really only hurting the most vulnerable in many instances.

The violence either way has to stop from both sides as well.

Police have to get a grip on their own, no question. Clearly we are starting to see at least the smallest shift that way from leadership in some areas. It may be but a small step in a marathon journey, but it all starts somewhere.

The criminals who are shooting at and running over cops for no reason other than they are wearing a uniform...has to stop. Those under those uniforms are mothers and fathers and sons and daughters just like all those who have been brutalized by the bad cops are. Same with the NG who are citizens of the very state they have been called to service in.

My worry is that niether moves quick enough to satisfy the other.....the guns come out...and we see just how dark it gets. In fact I think we are there now or will be in the next couple days.

Its all very sad but this is how revolutions often begin, and i dont think its a stretch to suggest that is where this is all headed one way or another. Im just not sure anyone will be satisfied on the other side of it though.

Someone can correct me, but I believe that the President can send in troops without state approval under the Insurrection act, which was designed as a except for clause in Posse Comitatus. Its been used several times in modern history. What gets this around Congress blocking it, is that it's almost like its got pre-approval without the need to notify or get Congress's approval.



From my understanding what really gets this around Posse, is that the military wouldn't go in to enforce civilian law, but is there to aid civilian authority while not acting as a police force.


I don't want the military to go in anywhere, because frankly their approach to ending the state of riot would be extreme.


The only way that this could effect is if an office objects to an order as being a illegal order. If the President declared marshal law and used the Insurrection act, I don't think that a soldier or officer could refuse that order legally. However the add on would be if the Military was deployed under the insurrection act, and either the president or a superior officer order the wholesale slaughter of civilians, that would be an illegal order equaling murder.

[corporatejay]

Bad takes all around on the blackouttuesday. It's not just about awareness, it's about you taking a specific stand on this issue. Believe it or not, and based on the Kaep response, there are people who don't think this is a problem.

How about the fact that people are still replying "ALL LIVES MATTER".


You're identifying yourself as someone who doesn't think this is okay. You're also giving large institutions, CSEC, MLSE and other corporations, a pass to make the same statement without alienating the fan base.


This isn't the same with terrorist attacks. Not sure there's a lot of divisiveness on that issue. This is still *somewhat* controversial.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

It really is and it is goddamn infuriating how much I am seeing this, and worst part is it's always the same people doing absolutely NOTHING of value but changing profile photos and hashtagging and pretending they're championing a cause.

It is slacktivism. It's like 'thoughts and prayers'; it does nothing except make you feel like you helped. All to get your dopamine infusion, the one you get from posting the blank photo on your Instagram or Facebook, just like you did when you posted the picture of yourself on social media holding a sign at a protest for an event that occurred in an entirely different country than the one you protested in. You did nothing, but get to pretend you did something. Go you.

"BuT AwArEnEsS."

'Awareness' is pointless, we are hyper aware of what's going on, what is needed is some form of tangible contribution to work toward solving the problem. Donate to the NAACP for example. But more importantly, be an ally... when you see something, say and do something. F--king help.

How do you know these people aren't donating money to causes related to the movement? That they aren't spending time researching the issues? That they aren't confronting casual racism amongst friends and family?
You see someone posting a black square and automatically label them slacktivist.

Would you rather people list what they're doing to be an ally for POC?

[Baron von Kriterium]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Someone can correct me, but I believe that the President can send in troops without state approval under the Insurrection act...

You are correct.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/252

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/253


Code 251 applies to a State request.