06-01-2020, 03:31 PM
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#1161
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
The question is though are natives 'more likely to commit a crime?' or are they just far more likely to be charged with a crime, as they live in a massively policed neighbourhood, get crappy legal advice and end up pleading guilty while just as many white people are using and selling drugs get into fights or the like but tend to get ignored as they have houses and don't live in an easily policed area
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Also to be fair, looking solely as the RCMP for data can't be accurate as the types of areas they police, contributes to the type of persons they deal with. For example, I would think if you were to take the same data from urban police services, the numbers would be much different.
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06-01-2020, 03:32 PM
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#1162
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Roast Beef
WTF is the "right normal"? Sounds like some kind of coded language for "Put the ni@@ers back in their place."
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Odd verbiage but presumably just a state in which every major city in the country is not burning down. Esper sucks but he's not really saying anything worse than Trump at this point.
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06-01-2020, 03:41 PM
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#1163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
The question is though are natives 'more likely to commit a crime?' or are they just far more likely to be charged with a crime, as they live in a massively policed neighbourhood, get crappy legal advice and end up pleading guilty while just as many white people are using and selling drugs get into fights or the like but tend to get ignored as they have houses and don't live in an easily policed area
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all of the above...
4 of 10 live in poverty, so 40% of the population is poor. Obvious there is going to be more crime and substance abuse ect.
Anyway after my post last night I was accused of being "you posters" and racist against myself lol. Thought I should clear up my stance I wasn't denying racism I was just disputing the data and offering what I thought was the root of the problem. I think going after the RCMP only on this stuff is wrong. Lets look for the root causes of the vicious cycle of poverty in these communities.
again, if anyone feels compelled to do something and is still looking I recommend
https://www.canadahelps.org/en/chari...ions-services/
I think this is a good fit locally for the stuff we are discussing
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Last edited by dino7c; 06-01-2020 at 03:52 PM.
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06-01-2020, 04:00 PM
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#1164
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Location: east van
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My experience of the system in Vancouver is it isn't so much racist as just broken, the native population is heavily policed, they get picked up for minor infractions that most of us would be let off on, they get a charge, plead guilty get a minor fine or probation and are cut loose, the fact they have a record now means that in the future they will always be charged as that tends to be how the police work, it just becomes an endless revolving door that keeps natives in the Criminal Justice system for the most petty of crimes generally, of course that makes finding work impossible and so begats more crime
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06-01-2020, 04:03 PM
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#1165
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: compton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
My experience of the system in Vancouver is it isn't so much racist as just broken, the native population is heavily policed, they get picked up for minor infractions that most of us would be let off on, they get a charge, plead guilty get a minor fine or probation and are cut loose, the fact they have a record now means that in the future they will always be charged as that tends to be how the police work, it just becomes an endless revolving door that keeps natives in the Criminal Justice system for the most petty of crimes generally, of course that makes finding work impossible and so begats more crime
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^For guys like Weitz- this is how systemic racism works
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06-01-2020, 04:05 PM
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#1166
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Voter turnout better be high this November
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06-01-2020, 04:12 PM
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#1167
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Voter turnout better be high this November
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Yes it has to be, and hopefully is. And not just November. It has to be higher for every level of government and for every elected official.
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06-01-2020, 04:16 PM
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#1168
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Voter turnout better be high this November
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Hope that's still relevant by then.
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06-01-2020, 04:17 PM
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#1169
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First round-bust
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06-01-2020, 04:20 PM
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#1170
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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He just can't wait to go play "pew pew"
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06-01-2020, 04:31 PM
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#1171
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Thank you, PepsiFree — just sent $80 to BLM. I'm finding it hard to keep track of the various different individual Floyd/Minnesota GoFundMe pages and all that so I figured it made sense to help the biggest cause.
If anyone else has any causes they think people should donate to I will happily contribute more.
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I ran across something, more so for US based people.
This is a topic that Obama has addressed. Protests are to raise awareness and make the powers that be uncomfortable
The next steps involve identifying actions that individuals can take snd organizations that they support
https://www.obama.org/anguish-and-action/
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TAKE STEPS AND LEND SUPPORT TO ENCOURAGE REFORM.
Color of Change—Sign a Petition to End Violent Policing Against Black People
Sign this petition calling for the end of police violence against Black people.
Official George Floyd Memorial Fund—Go Fund Me
Support George Floyd’s family through this fund designed to cover expenses as well as care for his children and their education.
Nationwide Bail Fund
Help support bail for protestors in your community. For those here in Chicago, you can support the Chicago Community Bond Fund.
GET ENGAGED
CONNECT WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS ON THE FRONT LINES OF SOCIAL JUSTICE.
Black Futures Lab
Campaign Zero
Center for Policing Equity
Movement For Black Lives
National Black Justice Coalition
NAACP Legal Defense Fund
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06-01-2020, 04:32 PM
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#1172
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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Lol. Sure dude.
This guy is a paper tiger. He isn't gonna do ####.
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06-01-2020, 04:40 PM
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#1173
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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How long until Trump uses the Insurrection Act?
Might not be the worst thing ever, gives everyone a chance to calm the f down.
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06-01-2020, 04:41 PM
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#1174
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Life coach. Lol.
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Originally posted by Bingo.
Maybe he hates cowboy boots.
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06-01-2020, 04:42 PM
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#1175
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Not what I expected his voice to sound like.
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06-01-2020, 04:51 PM
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#1176
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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Trump just said he would protect the 2nd amendment of citizens. Maybe that's enough of a green light for the crazies.
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06-01-2020, 04:53 PM
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#1178
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Franchise Player
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7pm curfew coming up in DC.
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06-01-2020, 04:55 PM
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#1179
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Looooooooooooooch
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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!
7pm curfew coming up in DC.
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This is going to get wild I think...
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06-01-2020, 04:56 PM
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#1180
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Now world wide!
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Sounds like Trump is pretty keen to roll some army tanks over his own fellow citizens.
Yee-ikes.
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