Minneapolis PD Suffocate Unarmed Black Man Who Later Dies in Hospital

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Oh, there is a real Antifa that is mainly active on the European continent going all the way back to the 1920s. In the 1930s, they used to have riots against fascist marches in England, France and Germany. Of course that was a meaningful moment in history for fascism was unapologetically on display for everyone to see. And they often succeeded: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cable_Street

The Antifa in Germany is still pretty organized.

But these Millennial younger people in North America expropriated the Antifa brand to justify their actions have nothing to do with the original movement. They just hijacked the term to try and make themselves sound legit. It's like that Muslim who attacked that Florida night club a couple of years ago and wrote a letter saying he was ISIS. ISIS had nothing to do with him or the act carried out, but it was just a way for him to justify his violence by using the bogeyman.

Hating fascist doesn't make you a member of Antifa, my Grandad was beating up Blackshirts on Cable St and all he was a member of was the local Labour Party

[direwolf]

Pretty sure these guys are Antifa.

[Crown Royal]

The scariest part of all of this to me is that if this is how police act with the world watching, how bad is it really when no one is watching? The thought is ####ing terrifying.

[activeStick]

Just a few blocks away from me in Vancouver at the VAG this afternoon.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1267282770767695872

[peter12]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Just a few blocks away from me in Vancouver at the VAG this afternoon.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1267282770767695872

Just so pissed off at this. We are on the cusp of actually pushing through this pandemic. BLM Vancouver didn't sanction this march because of the risk of a community outbreak and just seeing all my white friends there posting on Instagram. Like that's not the ####ing point. Jeezus.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Hating fascist doesn't make you a member of Antifa, my Grandad was beating up Blackshirts on Cable St and all he was a member of was the local Labour Party

No, but there were organized groups as far back then which were essentially the same thing as Antifa now, even if they were called something else. The group in Germany was the first one to adopt the Antifa name in 1983.

The organized movement in Europe does trace the Cable Street incident back to the where the movement truly began and evolved into Antifa.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by peter12

Just so pissed off at this. We are on the cusp of actually pushing through this pandemic. BLM Vancouver didn't sanction this march because of the risk of a community outbreak and just seeing all my white friends there posting on Instagram. Like that's not the ####ing point. Jeezus.

Is your last sentence being sarcastic? Because posting on instagram is absolutely the entire ####ing point of that. It certainly isn't to effect any actual change.

Embarrassing.

[transplant99]

At this point im curious if there is even a mid sized city in the entire country that hasnt seen looting and worse.

[CaptainCrunch]

Insurance companies have to be pooping their pants right now.


Is acts of riots covered?

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by peter12

Just so pissed off at this. We are on the cusp of actually pushing through this pandemic. BLM Vancouver didn't sanction this march because of the risk of a community outbreak and just seeing all my white friends there posting on Instagram. Like that's not the ####ing point. Jeezus.

I agree, this is just plain dumb. Reminds me of all those jackasses in Toronto a couple weeks ago congregating in that park.

BC has done a terrific job so far at flattening the curve and we're slowly opening things back up. I'm scheduled to go back to full-time work on June 19th (currently I'm only going in 3 days/week). While I can appreciate the sentiment behind this protest, this unfortunately has the potential to set this province back a couple of months in terms of the virus.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Is acts of riots covered?

Isn't it just vandalism? You'd think so.

[GreenLantern]

I’m confused here, I thought the protests were against discrimination and police brutality... but all the videos I see have blanketed all police officers as the same, with massive hatred for anyone who has the uniform on. Isn’t that exactly the type of stereotyping that the people are protesting?

[transplant99]

This is Green Bay about 30 minutes ago....it is a city of 100K.

[dino7c]

What an embarrassment in Vancouver...people just looking for a protest

Somebody in another country was murdered and the person who committed the act was arrested for murder right? What am I missing here? Why are people in Vancouver protesting, especially after being in lock down for months. Christ sake save something for the upcoming playoff loss.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I’m confused here, I thought the protests were against discrimination and police brutality... but all the videos I see have blanketed all police officers as the same, with massive hatred for anyone who has the uniform on. Isn’t that exactly the type of stereotyping that the people are protesting?

Wow, yes, you clearly are confused. I don’t mean to be blunt, but you’re missing enough context and are behind enough on the issue that I think it’s your responsibility to educate yourself here. You can start with reading this thread, you can read a few of the hundreds of articles being published, you can even google “why are people protesting” (it’s true, it’s that easy) and you’ll get up to speed.

Very briefly, with the expectation that you’ll go do the work to get up to speed, these protests are not about stereotyping. But they are very much about police brutality. You also seem to be missing the videos of countless acts of police brutality in response to these protests, and even just the positive videos of protestors and police having honest, helpful dialogue. So you should probably just watch more than whatever one-sided source you have going on.

Good luck!

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by peter12

Just so pissed off at this. We are on the cusp of actually pushing through this pandemic. BLM Vancouver didn't sanction this march because of the risk of a community outbreak and just seeing all my white friends there posting on Instagram. Like that's not the ####ing point. Jeezus.

Here’s the dilemma. You are a woke 20 something white person. You’ve been dutifully following covid quarantine orders and karening the #### out of those who you don’t think are following the rules enough. A racial protest breaks out!

Do you: a) stay home and run the risk people think you aren’t woke, but maybe get covid, Or b) go protest during a global pandemic and possibly contribute to widespread growth in case rates, but at least you aren’t a racist?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Here’s the dilemma. You are a woke 20 something white person. You’ve been dutifully following covid quarantine orders and karening the #### out of those who you don’t think are following the rules enough. A racial protest breaks out!

Do you: a) stay home and run the risk people think you aren’t woke, but maybe get covid, Or b) go protest during a global pandemic and possibly contribute to widespread growth in case rates, but at least you aren’t a racist?

“Allies” need a way to center themselves in these situations. They, of course, could continue to social distance and instead donate money to one of the more organised initiatives working to make change in the US. But receipts don’t really look as good on the gram. And like... putting money where your mouth is can be expensive.

Not to completely discredit allies though. Many do vote with their hearts, which is a very important thing, I’m just very jaded.

[dino7c]

NM, read the post wrong

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by dino7c

deleted post.

Frankly, it's too early to determine if these are doing more harm than good. Two officers in Atlanta were already fired for using excessive force, and others were put on desk duty pending investigation. Perhaps other bad cops will be exposed and punished accordingly. Perhaps with the eyes of the world upon us, we can finally work toward some law enforcement reform.

Perhaps we start demanding better training of LEOs. Better screening. Stricter punishments for those who violate their oath.

We simply do not yet know if these acts will change anything. That is a discussion to be had in the days, weeks, and years to come.

(...well now you edited yours, but I'm going to leave my response here because I think the points are valid for the discussion.)

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Frankly, it's too early to determine if these are doing more harm than good. Two officers in Atlanta were already fired for using excessive force, and others were put on desk duty pending investigation. Perhaps other bad cops will be exposed and punished accordingly. Perhaps with the eyes of the world upon us, we can finally work toward some law enforcement reform.

Perhaps we start demanding better training of LEOs. Better screening. Stricter punishments for those who violate their oath.

We simply do not yet know if these acts will change anything. That is a discussion to be had in the days, weeks, and years to come.

(...well now you edited yours, but I'm going to leave my response here because I think the points are valid for the discussion.)

Its fine, I stand by what I said...just wasn't fair to aim it at that poster

I have just seen many of these types of movements and while the intentions are good by some the images of looting, fires, vandalism, and straight up terrorism in some cases just paint a bad really bad picture. A guy murdered someone and was arrested for murder...this shouldn't be an us vs. them story. More division is not a good thing right now.