Minneapolis PD Suffocate Unarmed Black Man Who Later Dies in Hospital

[robbie111]

The way this keeps escalating I can see the old Orange one declaring Martial Law in 10, 9, 8 ....

[Scorch]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Slight tangent on this thread here for a moment, but I just want to send out some love to CP right now. I realize that there are a lot of differing opinions here, there are arguments and disagreements, even in this thread there have been some heated exchanges.

But I just made the mistake of glancing in on a Penguins message board that I'll sometimes check, and in their thread regarding this, they're lauding the NYPD officer who barreled into protesters. "Good for him. They didn't give him any choice."

In my neighborhood, in my city, in my county close to downtown Pittsburgh it is a pretty blue area. Relatively diverse population. But man, the minute you get a little bit past the inner suburbs, it's a wasteland of some of the worst kind of Trump supporters.

So for all that we have arguments and different viewpoints here, I'm glad that at least it seems that we all here can see clearly where police are overstepping their bounds, where they're abusing their authority, and we can all collectively be appalled by it, not lauding it as if protesters deserve to be run down in the streets.

Just saw this advisory from official public safety in Pittsburgh

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by jschick88

https://twitter.com/user/status/1266941939502456833

Jesus H. Christ, that video is terrifying.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by nik-

Better, yes. But it doesn't make them a "POS parent".

Semantics. "A terribly misguided decision akin to one that would be made by a POS parent" is maybe better? The other 9-year-olds are home safe. I dunno. I'm not a parent.

[jar_e]

Does any culture change come from this? Even if it’s prolonged, what systemic, cultural changes come from this?

This is the same nation that stood silent when a bunch of affluent white kids in Sandy Hook were killed and that couldn’t reform systemic or cultural gun change.

On the verge of another four years of Trump, I’m not holding my breath.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by CactusJack

Probably thinking about what he’s going to do once the mob of 100+ people that are surrounding and beating his car are going to do once he’s completely trapped. Burn him alive? What should he have done in that situation?

Put it in reverse, and back away slowly. Nobody gets hurt, nothing escalates.

Here’s the video again:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1266896333178195969

[wwkayaker]

Originally Posted by nik-

Better, yes. But it doesn't make them a "POS parent".

Yes, it does.

[nik-]

The NYPD seemed to just come out the gate at full volume.

[Scorch]

Who we need is... Kendall Jenner

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by nik-

Better, yes. But it doesn't make them a "POS parent".

I disagree. Taking your young children out to protest in a time like this? You deserve to have you’re ass kicked.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

You may watch too many movies. Police and militaries don't just start killing their own people en mass in developed countries.

Not en masse, sure, but I'm saying I'm surprised there haven't been, as far as I know, any instances of a protestor getting killed by a cop, or a or a cop getting killed by a mob of protestors (less likely), or a civilian who doesn't like the protestors getting killed by protestors. The worst we seem to have seen is a guy who tried to shoot an arrow at someone and got beat up, and a couple of people who attempted to drive through a crowd of people at relatively low speed and, thankfully, didn't seriously hurt anyone. I'm sure there have been some injuries, but like I say, this is pretty crazy stuff and it's happening in a number of cities at once. It could still happen, and obviously the property damage is not a good thing, but the lack of fatalities is.

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You want to make it a personal thing, I get it, but we’re talking about ideas and current events here.. The whole “don’t call me a racist! I bet everyone wants cops killed!” dramatics, yeah, we get it, you want attention.

To be fair, there have been people in this thread who have engaged with the ideas of other posters in a highly accusatory, moralistic fashion, essentially saying that they don't care about racism. I don't think you did that at all, I'm just saying, there is a way to call someone racist without actually calling them racist, and yeah, I don't blame people when they get upset at that sort of tone. Again, not you... at least, not this time.

This is short sighted. We would make a great team and you know it. Our differences create “comedic tension.”

Sure, but let's face it, in terms of solving the world's problems I don't think we'd actually get much done. I can see it making for a good comedy set. But I was actually aiming that more at afc's participation; I'd rather be in downtown Atlanta wearing that Bruce Willis billboard from "Die Hard with a Vengeance" right now than live through that.

[Acey]

Don Lemon calling out celebs as mentioned above.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1266948136078946304

[wwkayaker]

Chrissy Tiegen is pledging $100000 towards bail costs for the protestors. Maybe she watches CNN.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by nik-

Better, yes. But it doesn't make them a "POS parent".

I really think it does. Do you have kids?

[CactusJack]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Put it in reverse, and back away slowly. Nobody gets hurt, nothing escalates.

Here’s the video again:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1266896333178195969

They were impeding his forward progress... if he put it in reverse do you honestly think they were all just going to stand there and wave goodbye while he tried to reverse out? I made sure to watch again as per your suggestion and both vehicles were being attacked from behind as well... look at the mob of people coming up from behind, he had no safe escape in any direction.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Acey

Don Lemon calling out celebs as mentioned above.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1266948136078946304

That one is even better than the clip that I saw. The one I saw was before that interview and he sounded more dejected. He’s more riled up in this one.

[OMG!WTF!]

I disagree. Taking your young children out to protest in a time like this? You deserve to have you’re ass kicked.

Yep. There isn't a hope in hell I'd take my dog to a "protest".

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Scorch

Just saw this advisory from official public safety in Pittsburgh

There were definitely some issues with the Pittsburgh protest as well, mostly vandalism (I posted a video of a white kid destroying a police vehicle while the protesters around him tried to stop him), and the vandalism that ended up on the Lemieux statue outside of PPG Paints Arena matched that which was on a war memorial earlier this week on Memorial Day.

The actual people protesting the police brutality seemed to not be the ones inciting any chaos here.

Also I spent all day today managing phone calls with coworkers and my boss since we're finally reopening this coming week after 2.5 months closed, so I was completely unaware what was happening. I picked up dinner from a restaurant less than a mile from where the worst of the Pittsburgh chaos happened. I saw a single group of about 40 protesters, all calmly walking down the street with signs.

It wasn't until I got home that I realized anything had happened. So it doesn't seem like our event turned out like the others.

[The Fonz]

There was literally not a single person behind him when he floored it forward.


Edit: and I also have zero interest in arguing about this so I’ll just throw in the towel

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Does any culture change come from this? Even if it’s prolonged, what systemic, cultural changes come from this?

I think there are historical examples where it is effective, but the people have become increasingly powerless. It also takes a high level of extremism and organization to take down an established power structure.