Minneapolis PD Suffocate Unarmed Black Man Who Later Dies in Hospital

[dammage79]

3rd degree Murder and Manslaughter. Those are the charges brought against Chauvin.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by dammage79

3rd degree Murder and Manslaughter. Those are the charges brought against Chauvin.

Wonder if they're considering it criminally negligent manslaughter. The two charges seem like basically the same thing.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Here is the attempted walk back...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1266434153932894208

https://twitter.com/user/status/1266434155543506945

[troutman]

"Spoken as a fact, not as a statement." WTF does that mean?

[Acey]

Twitter right now is a firestorm of people who don't understand what constitutes first degree murder.

[Harry Lime]

If it turns out that they worked at the same nightclub, and the officer knew him, then third degree is not the right charge.

Third degree murder can be defined as homicide committed with the intention of causing bodily harm, but not necessarily death. It can be a killing that results from indifference or negligence or recklessness. Statutes defining third degree murder vary considerably from state to state.

[FlamesAddiction]

Donald Trump is like if Cartman became president.

[PsYcNeT]

It's always murder in the 3rd degree when you kill a guy over a period of 9 minutes in public that you knew and beefed with at a previous job.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Acey

Twitter right now is a firestorm of people who don't understand what constitutes first degree murder.

Or that even if this is what it was, they're going to charge what they think they can prove.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

If it turns out that they worked at the same nightclub, and the officer knew him, then third degree is not the right charge.

I don't see how knowing him previously is proof that he intended to kill him and not cause bodily harm, nor do I imagine a jury will make that connection either... unless there are uncovered text messages from his phone saying "I'm going to kill the negro I work with at the club".

[PsYcNeT]

I mean he's going to be out in 12 months regardless of what they charge him with, let's be real.

[Looch City]

What's the bet on Trump personally pardoning him? There'll be a tweet about it for sure.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

What's the bet on Trump personally pardoning him? There'll be a tweet about it for sure.

That would legitimately start a civil war.

[nik-]

He hasn't even pardoned Roger Stone, why would he pardon some random cop? I mean I get why technically, but why would he actually proceed to carry it out.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

What's the bet on Trump personally pardoning him? There'll be a tweet about it for sure.

I mean if he wants a full scale nationwide riot on his hands and not enough military and police to cover it all, sure. He couldn't possibly be stupid enough to galvanize the masses in one tweet....

Civil War 2.0.

[Robo]

Originally Posted by nik-

He hasn't even pardoned Roger Stone, why would he pardon some random cop? I mean I get why technically, but why would he actually proceed to carry it out.

I could definitely see him doing it to further divide the country no one gives a s### about stone
Edit NM just saw Trump couldn't pardon him

[Senator Clay Davis]

These aren't federal charges either so Trump can't pardon him.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Acey

I don't see how knowing him previously is proof that he intended to kill him and not cause bodily harm, nor do I imagine a jury will make that connection either... unless there are uncovered text messages from his phone saying "I'm going to kill the negro I work with at the club".

I don't think the AG will try him for murder because he is white policeman and he murdered in cold blood a black man, but if we lived in some Twilight Zone alternate world where policemen in the states where held accountable for murdering black men then the fact they knew each other would actually be damning and would almost certainly lead to a 1st or 2nd degree murder charge, and at this stage I have no doubt what so ever that he fully intended to cause harm, my only question at this stage is did he intend to kill him, I suspect he did.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Robo

I could definitely see him doing it to further divide the country no one gives a s### about stone
Edit NM just saw Trump couldn't pardon him

I mean he clearly went to bat for Mike Flynn and no one gives a #### about Flynn either.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

but if we lived in some Twilight Zone alternate world where policemen in the states where held accountable for murdering black men then the fact they knew each other would actually be damning and would almost certainly lead to a 1st or 2nd degree murder charge

And he would be acquitted, and Minneapolis gets burned down again. Awesome.