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			No one is going to tank a playoff game, for any reason. But he's right that it seems unnecessarily awkward. Why not just wait and do the lottery after 8 teams are eliminated?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-26-2020, 08:25 PM
			
			
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			So Calgary and Winnipeg will have played against each other in Regina and whatever hub city they play for in the playoffs but not in Calgary or Winnipeg.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-26-2020, 08:28 PM
			
			
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			I'm hoping the draft lottery is televised and all three picks are play-in teams just for how ####ty of a production it would be: 
 
"The third overall pick in the 2020 draft belongs to" (Carefully opens envelope, holds up NHL logo placeholder)"....mystery team." 
"The second overall pick in the 2020 draft belongs to....mystery team." 
"The first overall pick in the 2020 draft belongs to....mystery team."
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-26-2020, 08:34 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  bobbylouie
					 
				 
				That's not what I understood him to say at all....training camps start July 1...qualifying rounds late July, first 2 rounds in August......Round of 4 won't start until SEPTEMBER will the Finals stretching to almost October. 
			
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I hadn't seen the timeline stuff yet. All the more reason that they will be hopeful to sell at least a few thousand tickets per game.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-26-2020, 08:48 PM
			
			
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				So Calgary and Winnipeg will have played against each other in Regina and whatever hub city they play for in the playoffs but not in Calgary or Winnipeg. 
			
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			05-27-2020, 12:29 AM
			
			
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			This thread is a good example of why mega threads suck so much. Fairly large new update and you have to go scour post by post to figure out where the new news sort of begins. So annoying.  
 
Just start a new thread.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-27-2020, 07:23 AM
			
			
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			This is what appears to be the CURRENT BEST CASE SCENARIO  
timetable to get a sense of when the league would like to have  
all this happen. 
 
This is NOT my prediction of what I think will happen or anything 
remotely close to locked in stone.  This is just based on the information available on May 27 and what Bettman laid out in his recent comments. 
 
June 10-15 :  Hub cities are chosen and announced 
June 15:  Teams can begin informal workouts 
July 1 - July 14:  Two week training camps open 
July 15 - July 21:  One week for (2) exhibition games per team 
July 22 - August 1:  11 days for Best-of-5 Qualifying rounds 
August 3 - August 17 : 15 days for “Round of 16” 
August 19 - August 31 :  15 Days for Round of 8 
September 2 - September 16 - 15 Days for Round of 4 
September 18 - October 1 - 15 Days for Stanley Cup Finals
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-27-2020, 07:42 AM
			
			
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				No one is going to tank a playoff game, for any reason. But he's right that it seems unnecessarily awkward. Why not just wait and do the lottery after 8 teams are eliminated? 
			
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The NHL wants to put something in front of fans and the media ASAP so the sport doesn’t completely fall off the radar. They’re worried about casual fans drifting away and never coming back.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-27-2020, 08:09 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  bobbylouie
					 
				 
				This is what appears to be the CURRENT BEST CASE SCENARIO  
timetable to get a sense of when the league would like to have  
all this happen. 
 
This is NOT my prediction of what I think will happen or anything 
remotely close to locked in stone.  This is just based on the information available on May 27 and what Bettman laid out in his recent comments. 
 
June 10-15 :  Hub cities are chosen and announced 
June 15:  Teams can begin informal workouts 
July 1 - July 14:  Two week training camps open 
July 15 - July 21:  One week for (2) exhibition games per team 
July 22 - August 1:  11 days for Best-of-5 Qualifying rounds 
August 3 - August 17 : 15 days for “Round of 16” 
August 19 - August 31 :  15 Days for Round of 8 
September 2 - September 16 - 15 Days for Round of 4 
September 18 - October 1 - 15 Days for Stanley Cup Finals 
			
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I think this also means it's safe to assume that the Stanley Cup will be awarded in late summer early fall for 2021 and possibly 2022. Seems like the league knows that the summer months are the safest time to get the tournament done.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-27-2020, 09:06 AM
			
			
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			05-27-2020, 09:11 AM
			
			
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I imagine that if the Flames were to be avoided any sort of compensation it would be in the form of a mid round compensatory pick and not the Oilers 3rd round pick.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-27-2020, 09:12 AM
			
			
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				Any clarity yet on the Lucic/Neal conditional pick? 
			
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Specifically...i dont believe so, but yesterday it was made pretty clear that all stats are frozen in place for the year, so unlikely there will be a pick awarded.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-27-2020, 09:17 AM
			
			
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				The NHL wants to put something in front of fans and the media ASAP so the sport doesn’t completely fall off the radar. They’re worried about casual fans drifting away and never coming back. 
			
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I'm not sure casual fans have an interest in watching a needlessly complicated draft lottery... in fact I kind of doubt it'll even be broadcast in the USA. I suspect most casual fans won't even realize it's happening until it's over. 
 
And then you have the fact that once people are invested, they could broadcast the whole thing in between games or in an intermission like usual, and get a ton of people watching, so there's an opportunity cost. 
 
The draft lottery isn't even slightly interesting if you already know who has the top 3 spots. It's barely interesting anyway, but there's a bit of suspense about those top 3 picks I guess.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-27-2020, 09:23 AM
			
			
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			I feel like if the NFL opens to fans as they are planning to in September, rounds 3 and 4 might end up being available to some fans (or maybe just the Finals). I feel like the NHL has that in their back pocket as an idea or hope.  
 
Regarding the bracket system, it probably has less meaning when you consider how the round robin between the top four teams will determine their positioning and not their regular season performance.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-27-2020, 10:48 AM
			
			
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				28 skaters? OK... here's my guess. 
 
1. Tkachuk 
2. Gaudreau 
3. Monahan 
4. Lindholm 
5. Backlund 
6. Lucic 
7. Mangiapane 
8. Ryan 
9. Dube 
10. Bennett 
11. Jankowski 
12. Rieder 
13. Rinaldo 
14. Czarnik 
15. Giordano 
16. Hamonic 
17. Andersson 
18. Brodie 
19. Hanifin 
20. Forbort 
21. Gustafsson 
22. Kylington 
23. Valimaki 
24. Stone 
25. Yelesin 
26. Gawdin 
27. Robinson 
28. Phillips 
 
Plus Rittich, Talbot, Zagidulin, Gillies, and Parsons. 
			
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You’d have to think Quine would be there. 
 
Looking at the list I’m not sure who for though..Likely one of a Gawdin or Phillips?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-27-2020, 11:08 AM
			
			
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			Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm 
Mangiapane-Backlund-Tkachuk 
Lucic-Ryan-Dube 
Bennett-Jankowski-Rieder 
 
Giordano-Brodie 
Hanifin-Andersson 
Gustafsson-Hamonic 
 
Rittich-Talbot 
 
Extra Forwards: 
Czarnik 
Gawdin 
Quine 
Rinaldo 
Robinson 
 
Extra D: 
Forbort 
Kylington 
Stone 
 
 
Extras Goalies: 
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			05-27-2020, 11:11 AM
			
			
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Don't see why these conditions can't be modified to be prorated.
 
Oilers played 71 games. Flames played 70.
 
Neal needed 21 goals in 82 games. Which equals needing 18 in 71. He hit 19.
 
Lucic needed to score at least 10 fewer goals over 82 games. He had 8 in 70 games. Prorated he would have hit 9 in 82. 
 
Conditions met.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-27-2020, 11:11 AM
			
			
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				Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm 
Mangiapane-Backlund-Tkachuk 
Lucic-Ryan-Dube 
Bennett-Jankowski-Rieder 
 
Giordano-Brodie 
Hanifin-Andersson 
Gustafsson-Hamonic 
 
Rittich-Talbot 
 
Extra Forwards: 
Czarnik 
Gawdin 
Quine 
Rinaldo 
Robinson 
 
Extra D: 
Forbort 
Kylington 
Stone 
 
 
Extras Goalies: 
Gillies 
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No Valimaki? I would have to think he will be there if he's recovered.
 
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			05-27-2020, 11:31 AM
			
			
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				No Valimaki? I would have to think he will be there if he's recovered. 
 
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If he plays he needs expansion protection. I want him to play, but I assume he’d be at the bottom of the activation list for that reason.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-27-2020, 11:34 AM
			
			
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				Specifically...i dont believe so, but yesterday it was made pretty clear that all stats are frozen in place for the year, so unlikely there will be a pick awarded. 
			
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 https://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41095132-4
Looks like the NHL and NHLPA disagree on this
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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