05-15-2020, 10:22 AM
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#101
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
I used to work for Trican, had some guys from the Houston office come up for training for a week. Our conversations were pretty normal until one of them asked me what kind of guns I owned. He seemed quite surprised when I said I've never owned a gun, and was shocked when he asked the rest of the team and none of them owned guns either. Guns were such a normal part of his life that he couldn't understand not owning one
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Did you ask him if he had been to Stampede yet?
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05-15-2020, 10:22 AM
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#102
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Iggy-ville
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I lived in Texas for a year, and I will say that I've never met better people, I really loved living there, and no not because I was a gun nut. There was a real individual toughness and non nonsense no bullshyte approach that I respected and see too little of in Canada.
The Texan's that I lived with, worked with, went to school with, partied with, drank with and had late night long drunken conversations with are still some of my favorite people and I've kept in touch with them for a long period of time.
When I spent time in New York and spent time talking to people on the Island and this was after 9/11, they were friendly and funny and hospitable.
People have this caricature of American's based on opinions created around the extremes of their society.
I will say one thing, I've met a lot more honest American's then honest Canadians.
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When I travel for business I always find Americans to be more friendly than Canadians. Sit down at a hotel bar in America and someone will almost always strike up a conversation. Sit down at a hotel bar in Canada and you will be left alone. I'm fine either way - but it is my experience that Americans tend be more outgoing and friendly than Canadians.
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05-15-2020, 10:35 AM
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#103
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
Here's an interesting question.
Let's say you come home and you look across the street and it appears your neighbours house is being robbed.
You own a handgun, what is your course of action?
Because honestly, I'd just phone the police and wait for them to come deal with it.
I get the impression that people who carry guns (not just own) would grab their pistol and run in to "save the day".
I can't understand this line of thinking.
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You get the impression that they "think" they would do that. When really they would just go hide, maybe not even call the cops.
It's not just gun owners (but I am focussing on that, because of the self defense, security aspects of the arguments) it's anyone, really, who would just go hide. We aren't as brave as we think we are, especially when it's someone else's property or we aren't directly being threatened.
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05-15-2020, 02:53 PM
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#105
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Lifetime Suspension
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Those protesters think they're heroic and special, standing up to tyrants or whatever the ridiculous wording was.
They're just morons with two brain cells that are exactly the sort that shouldn't be allowed within ten feet of a firearm.
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05-15-2020, 02:54 PM
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#106
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Truculent!
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White people with guns are protestors.
Colored people with guns are terrorists.
That's the long and short of it in a lot of US elected officials and peoples minds.
It's really, really, ####ing disturbing.
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05-15-2020, 02:55 PM
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#107
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by DuffMan
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Quote from that article.
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"When I read some of the words that were published this week, it's not about staying at home, it's not about maybe losing your business ... it's about spreading blood on the front lawn of this building, and I would be lying if I said that sitting in my chair with four men in rifles behind me didn't make me think that I was going to be [dying from gun violence] very soon," McMorrow said in a May 12 speech to the legislature.
"Yeah, we're supposed to stand up here and say we're brave and we're not intimidated," she continued, "but guess what: That is damned intimidation and it is not welcome, and my question back is what the hell are we going to do about it? Or do we wait until something happens?"
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05-15-2020, 03:27 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
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It’s crazy you can carry a weapon into a government building
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05-15-2020, 06:07 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by SportsJunky
Hey fellas, marching with guns and taking over government buildings is going to get you back to work how exactly? Who do you have to kill to get a job around here anyway?
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We’d like to offer you a job making license plates.
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05-15-2020, 07:20 PM
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#110
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by dobbles
Meant to grab this in the multiquote and forgot, so sorry for double posting...
As someone that has lived for significant time in 3 disparate parts of the country, I honestly feel CP has the pulse of America pretty good. I saw nfotiu thanked your post and he is in Virginia and often has pretty different takes on things. And I have also conversed with EldrickOnIce and he has some pretty different experiences. So its certainly anecdotal at best, but I pride myself on having seen a pretty wide swath of what this country has to offer.
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I find that Canadians that live in America now seem to have a much rosier take on rural America than born Americans. I think some of it is the psychological effect of people leaving places for new places and feeling pressure to lay claim to a new area, where they end up defending it more than the locals.
Last edited by jayswin; 05-15-2020 at 07:22 PM.
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05-15-2020, 07:22 PM
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#111
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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I read this somewhere at some point and really want to find it again. The idea is that we're biologically determined to define and defend the land and culture with which we identify (are born with). People that stay in one place do this naturally with where they were born, where as there is a struggle with human beings that move as they feel they have left something, but still have the desire to define and defend so they end up over exerting a definition and defense of their new home.
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05-15-2020, 07:27 PM
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#112
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
White people with guns are protestors.
Colored people with guns are terrorists.
That's the long and short of it in a lot of US elected officials and peoples minds.
It's really, really, ####ing disturbing.
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This unfortunately is exactly how it works. It's so unnerving, if not excepted at this point.
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05-16-2020, 07:06 AM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
I think that there are a few posters on the site that have never really met or worked with real Americans. It seems like their entire experience is based on twitter, social media and maybe a one time trip to a trailer park.
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This whole thread is so American.
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05-16-2020, 11:32 AM
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#114
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: At the Gates of Hell
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Bugs Bunny sawed my state off from the others so I’m not sure what’s going on now.
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05-17-2020, 05:10 PM
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#115
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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05-17-2020, 07:24 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
None of this is true or false. You will believe any talking point that you agree with while not applying any scrutiny. Kind of like sheep. It isnt a good news story, wait for the facts to come out.
If the guy was up to no good, does that change the conclusion of this story? I am not so sure it does, the video does not add enough here.
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If by 'change the conclusion' you mean does it change that he was shot down dead in the street by a pair murders?
I would say it does not.
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05-17-2020, 09:06 PM
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#117
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Offered up a bag of cans for a custom user title
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Westside
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
If by 'change the conclusion' you mean does it change that he was shot down dead in the street by a pair murders?
I would say it does not.
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The two could be the most racist people ever, or not. The man was certainly shot dead, but there is a lot to sort out, including what/if the crime is and then maybe a court case.
What we do know is they went out of their way with weapons to stop someone they believe committed a crime. We don't even know with certainty if the guy did in fact do something bad, but he quite possibly did.
The media does a great job whipping these things into a frenzy, sometimes they are accurate but most times they are simply trying to make money. We all need to be patient...is there a single person on this site that would want these guys to be set free if they were in fact murderers as you stated? I doubt it...but I am starting to worry that there are posters who don't care if they do turn out to be innocent, they want them in jail no matter the facts or their guilt.
Not good when we want innocent people in jail...and they are innocent until proven guilty. The fact I defend justice doesn't make me a sympathize for either side of this case, I posted more on principle. Amazing this requires defending...one friend of mine defends some really bad people here in Calgary, she does it because everyone deserves a fair trial, but she does receive a lot of flak, it is actually scary.
I am also a true crime geek, so I want to know the facts...I am not counting on getting that from the media.
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05-17-2020, 10:55 PM
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#118
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
We don't even know with certainty if the guy did in fact do something bad, but he quite possibly did.
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And was shot and killed by 2 overweight gun nut white guys In a pickup truck
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05-21-2020, 10:59 AM
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#119
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
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05-22-2020, 07:51 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Exactly. Why risk the hundred things that could go wrong when you have people whose job it is to resolve dangerous situations.
Owning and carrying a gun for the off chance that you can act out a hero fantasy that can easily go south in real life and get you in legal #### even if you don't get hurt feels like the thinking of someone living in a delusional bubble. If you're the average citizen you're not trained to to deal with such situations anyways.
As for self defense, fair enough, store it away somewhere secure for that off chance. But it definitely doesn't need to be an assault rifle, and ffs don't be going to the grocery store barrel down your asscrack. You can't shoot coronavirus.
Also if you must have protection why use bullets? Get a flamethrower if you must scare away a potential trespasser. No need to incinerate anybody alive, just let loose a nice jet of flame like the badass you are and they'll pick another house.
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What's an assault rifle?
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