UPDATE: NHLPA votes for further negotiations on 24-team return to play format

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

They already overlay advertising in the rink, maybe they can add some cheesy digital fans, and a crowd-track.

Digitally get Waldo in there somewhere to keep fans at home engaged.

[The Yen Man]

The optimist in me really wants to believe we'll see a conclusion to this season, but the realist in me doesn't think it happens unless something drastically improves with the Covid19 situation.

If they were able to get games played in a safe manner, I'd welcome any method to conclude the season, be it a bracket tournament, condensed playoffs, (paper rock scissors tournament :-P), whatever. All along, the biggest hurdle has always been can they even do it in a safe manner for everyone involved.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I've heard that most NBA regional deals have clauses that give 100% revenue if the team plays 70 games. It seems likely that a similar structure might be in place with the NHL, considering how many stakeholders overlap (ie. it's the standard structure for an 82 gp league).

If that were true, NJD and BUF are the only teams outside of the presumptive 24 team format who did not reach the 70 gp mark. But there are a few big markets <70: VAN, PIT, PHI...and WAS, MIN, NAS, DAL, CAR, NYI, FLA.


Another thing that is interesting, exactly 24 teams are considered to have odds >0.0% of making the playoffs on this link. Of course MTL are 0.1% and CHI are 2.5%, but it's neat how that has shaken out.

7 teams are >98.8%
10 more teams are > 93.4 % (5 East, 5 West...sadly including the Oilers as the 93.4)

79.2 CAR
74.9 TOR
70.0 VAN
65.7 CGY

57.0 WIN
56.6 NYI
55.3 NAS
48.9 MIN

37.9 FLA
33.6 CBJ

21.8 NYR
13.0 ARI

2.5 CHI
0.1 MTL


As much as we can parse the current standings, this might be a more accurate/fair picture of where things stand. One thing I would not like to see is CHI or MTL given the same blank slate/even odds of making the final 16 as DAL/PIT/EDM, who were essentially 'in'. Nor should ARI/NYR have an equal path to 16 as a team with >70% odds.

Except this is not the case in the NHL. Regional TV deals are a tiny, tiny, tiny revenue source. The money comes from national TV which is heavily weighted on playoff games, Bettaman himself said this and was discussed weeks/ pages ago.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Except this is not the case in the NHL. Regional TV deals are a tiny, tiny, tiny revenue source. The money comes from national TV which is heavily weighted on playoff games, Bettaman himself said this and was discussed weeks/ pages ago.

This was always my assumption, too. But, it is one of the only plausible explanations for publicly musing the idea of 31 teams completing the reg season (the other explanations I can see are incompetence/tone deafness, or as an extreme initial anchor point to make their eventual plan seem mire reasonable).


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[getbak]

There's another brief update from Daly on The Athletic (from LeBrun). Nothing much new. They're still working on things.

If they do resume, coming back with 24 seems to be the most-likely. The bottom tier teams aren't planning on coming back.

A June draft seemed like a done-deal a week ago. Now, not so much. A decision will need to be made soon for that.

[agulati]

If Vancouver and Edmonton are both being considered as hub cities, is it possible that both cities get that role, even though they are in the pacific? Edmonton can be hosting central and Vancouver pacific. Though it probably depends if they go straight to playoffs or do a wrap up of the regular season as well.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by getbak

There's another brief update from Daly on The Athletic (from LeBrun). Nothing much new. They're still working on things.

If they do resume, coming back with 24 seems to be the most-likely. The bottom tier teams aren't planning on coming back.

A June draft seemed like a done-deal a week ago. Now, not so much. A decision will need to be made soon for that.

Pretty easy solution for draft, open trades back up until after the draft. That is the reason why the GM's and teams are so opposed to a June draft. It isn't like the deadline was that long ago game wise even.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

Well, think about it...based on the processes being followed right now by health authorities around the world, the whole team would have been exposed to the virus, they would all have to be quarantined. Otherwise you would have a Cargill style breakout.

I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, but it depends on the type of testing they have, how accurate it is and how fast it returns results.

If 1 player tests positive, is then isolated and not allowed into the same facilities as the rest of the team, they're not going to infect the rest of the team.

If pre game testing is 100% accurate and instant, you could test everyone before they enter an arena and are in any contact with others.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Locke

Digitally get Waldo in there somewhere to keep fans at home engaged.

If adding someone who is dressed uniquely, they can digitally add the Riders fan for an authentic dome experience

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, but it depends on the type of testing they have, how accurate it is and how fast it returns results.

If 1 player tests positive, is then isolated and not allowed into the same facilities as the rest of the team, they're not going to infect the rest of the team.

If pre game testing is 100% accurate and instant, you could test everyone before they enter an arena and are in any contact with others.

It’s never that way though, by the time 1 tests positive you have infected an average of 3.8-8.9 others(r0 factor) and in a close environment like that probably more. Also as of yet there is no such thing as 100% accurate and instant. That’s why the health authorities are using that process, isolating 1 person is not effective, that is a fact.

This is what happened in the Bundesliga last week, three tested positive and they shut it down, and the Germans have the best testing and setup.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by getbak

There's another brief update from Daly on The Athletic (from LeBrun). Nothing much new. They're still working on things.

If they do resume, coming back with 24 seems to be the most-likely. The bottom tier teams aren't planning on coming back.

A June draft seemed like a done-deal a week ago. Now, not so much. A decision will need to be made soon for that.

So you're telling me the Coyotes made a playoff?

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

It’s never that way though, by the time 1 tests positive you have infected an average of 3.8-8.9 others(r0 factor) and in a close environment like that probably more. Also as of yet there is no such thing as 100% accurate and instant. That’s why the health authorities are using that process, isolating 1 person is not effective, that is a fact.

This is what happened in the Bundesliga last week, three tested positive and they shut it down, and the Germans have the best testing and setup.

Bundesliga starts in 4 days, it has not been shut down.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Bundesliga starts in 4 days, it has not been shut down.

German fans warned ahead of Bundesliga restart this weekend


https://www.the42.ie/bundesliga-fans...96808-May2020/

German fans are being warned to stay away and authorities have warned matches could be halted if too many supporters gather outside the grounds.


Under German league rules put in place to resume the season, the home side is responsible for ensuring fans do not try to approach the stadium to support their team from a distance.


After weeks of meticulous planning and mass testing of players and backroom staff, it would be a nightmare for the Bundesliga if the fans were to derail the fragile recovery attempt.


Another group feels the resumption of football during a pandemic, which has claimed 7,500 lives in Germany, shows how “sick” professional football has become.


“A continuation of the season would be sheer mockery of the rest of society,”

Ultras groups across Germany said in a joint statement last month.
“Professional football is sick enough and should remain in quarantine.”

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by agulati

If Vancouver and Edmonton are both being considered as hub cities, is it possible that both cities get that role, even though they are in the pacific? Edmonton can be hosting central and Vancouver pacific. Though it probably depends if they go straight to playoffs or do a wrap up of the regular season as well.

We could see them both as his cities with a chance one of them wouldn’t be playing in their own city. It really makes no difference if one of these teams has to play on the road as even being in their home rink would seam like a road game if we can assume all teams quarantined in hotels.

[Reggie Dunlop]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1260639807048265728

Time to throw cold water on the re-launch?

[Toonage]

https://www.tsn.ca/gary-bettman-conf...ason-1.1475246

Honest question - if they choose all U.S. cities for hubs, players could all convene there to start practices?

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

https://twitter.com/user/status/1260639807048265728

Time to throw cold water on the re-launch?

I feel like Athletes could get around this, as the Border is still open for Essential travellers.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jbo

I feel like Athletes could get around this, as the Border is still open for Essential travellers.

Hockey players are essential? I don't think that would go over well

[DoubleK]

Cancel the season already. Focus the effort on what needs to get done for the fall.

[Dragomir]

I don’t see the appeal behind a 24 team clown fiesta, it ruins the integrity of the sport. The only way to minimize the asterisk is to have 16 teams in the playoffs with the best of seven format. That is the new standard this isn’t 1950 anymore, why add an extra 8 teams?