Covid Jersey Vote - Best #39 Flames History

[Bingo]

#1 - Turek (Riggin)
#2 - MacInnis (Commodore)
#3 - Phaneuf (Musil)
#4 - McCrimmon (Bouwmeester)
#5 - Giordano (Albelin)
#6 - Housley (Sarich)
#7 - Mullen (Brodie)
#8 - Risebrough (Bure)
#9 - McDonald (no vote)
#10 - Roberts (McGrattan)
#11 - Backlund (Yelle)
#12 - Iginla (Loob)
#13 - Gaudreau (Cammalleri)
#14 - Fleury (Nilsson)
#15 - McCarthy (Simon)
#16 - Chouinard (Stillman)
#17 - Hrdina (Bourque)
#18 - Stajan (Lombardi)
#19 - Tkachuk (Hunter)
#20 - Suter (Huselius)
#21 - Ference (Jokinen)
#22 - Conroy (Langkow)
#23 - Monahan (Reinhart)
#24 - Peplinski (Hudler)
#25 - Nieuwendyk (Plett)
#26 - Reichel (Nilson)
#27 - Hamilton (Tonelli)
#28 - Regehr (Lindholm)
#29 - Otto (Engelland)
#30 - Vernon (Sauve!)
#31 - Lemelin (Tabaracci)
#32 - Lydman (Byron)
#33 - Wilson (Rittich)
#34 - Kiprusoff (Macoun)
#35 - Reese (Grimson)
#36 - Petrovicky (Rinaldo)
#37 - McAmmond (Kidd)
#38 - Cowan (Lakovic)

[Bingo]

I put Gilmour in the Mullen and McDonald pile ... how do you just trade for a star player whenever you need one?

Instant impact.

Risebrough blew it, but I wish Gilmour himself had a little thicker skin so he could have been a Flame a little longer.

Bottom line in the early 90s though is he would have to go, they all did with the Canadian dollar and lack of salary cap.

[foofighter15]

These late numbers are such a mix bag. It's either a clear cut guy who wears a traditionally odd number (like with Gilmour/39)
Or
Arguing over which 13th forward was most memorable

As for Gilmour himself, so much history with this guy and the team. We traded someone who'd become one of the games most prolific goal scorers of all time, got our cup, then made one of the worst trades of all time fueled by internal drama.

All this was when I was still just a kid so it went over my head, but whether it was a Flames jersey or Leafs jersey, Gilmour was always one of my favorites.

[Reggie Dunlop]

These polls are become a "Locke Watch."

Which plug does Locke choose?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by foofighter15

These late numbers are such a mix bag. It's either a clear cut guy who wears a traditionally odd number (like with Gilmour/39)
Or
Arguing over which 13th forward was most memorable

Yeah, tomorrow should be a good one with Brathwaite and Tanguay. 44 and 55 should be interesting as well, but other than them, it's either one clear winner or a bunch of nobodies.

[CSharp]

Rise-dough pretty much traded one-to-one for the following players with the Leafs:

Gilmour - Leeman
Macoun - Petit
Nattress - Godynyuk
Manderville - Berube
Wamsley - Reese

How does anyone trade away a star center to get a washed soon-to-be retiring left winger let alone getting rid of 2 big D-men who were depth pieces of the defensive corps? And Manderville for Berube - WTF?!? So, Tim Hunter and Peplinksi is not enough deterrent? Ahhhh, what a way to dismantle the team for Calgary! Fletcher did well to instantly make the Make Beliefs an instant contender!

[nieuwy-89]

I'm still rattled by that trade. What could Risebrough have possibly been thinking? The reality of small market teams in the 90s made losing Gilmour unavoidable. But at least get back some prospects/picks that would help the team going forward, not washed up veterans. Complete incompetence and negligence by Risebrough that ushered in a decade of darkness for the Flames.

[calgaryred]

Originally Posted by nieuwy-89

I'm still rattled by that trade. What could Risebrough have possibly been thinking? The reality of small market teams in the 90s made losing Gilmour unavoidable. But at least get back some prospects/picks that would help the team going forward, not washed up veterans. Complete incompetence and negligence by Risebrough that ushered in a decade of darkness for the Flames.

And with that resume of trades Minnesota Wild hired him as president and gm

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[JBR]

Killer could have won the Conn Smythe in 1989. He was dominant in the Finals and I believe he was right up there with MacInnis and Vernon. He radiated intensity in that series, and was a monster in game 4.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by nieuwy-89

I'm still rattled by that trade. What could Risebrough have possibly been thinking? The reality of small market teams in the 90s made losing Gilmour unavoidable. But at least get back some prospects/picks that would help the team going forward, not washed up veterans. Complete incompetence and negligence by Risebrough that ushered in a decade of darkness for the Flames.

It was fishy that Risebrough was leaning on McNamara for advice only to see McNamara join the Leafs soon after.

McNamara had a Cup ring, but a couple of years later, the Flames were in much different circumstances. Fletcher had gone to the Leafs as president and GM, replaced by Doug Risebrough, who sensed it was time for a major shake-up.

“They were ready to move Doug Gilmour. There was trouble with a new contract and he wanted out in the worst way. Al Coates (Risebrough’s assistant) asked me about Pat Verbeek and Jim McKenzie (from Hartford). I said I’d take that for Gilmour. Then this Toronto thing gets going.”

McNamara had a 4:30 a.m. call from Flames management for his input on three of his former Leafs, whom he was informed were part of a 10-player proposal. McNamara said he was honest about the pluses and minuses of Leeman, defenceman Alexander Godynyuk and goaltender Jeff Reese and also gave opinion on blue-liner Michel Petit and pugilist Craig Berube. Going back East would be Gilmour, centre Kent Manderville, defencemen Jamie Macoun and Ric Nattress and netminder Rick Wamsley. McNamara said he deferred that to his Flames colleagues who knew Calgary’s roster best.

En route to Indiana on a scouting trip, McNamara couldn’t reach the Flames’ front office to get an update on the trade. If asked, he was going to express his reservations.

“But the phone was busy, busy, busy.”

Much later, when the record deal turned out to favour the Leafs so much, McNamara got part of the blame for allegedly playing up the worth of Toronto’s players.

“That gnawed at me for years. I had given my scouting report, but never recommended they take that deal, only Verbeek and McKenzie and for Gilmour.”

[Reggie Dunlop]

I remember first hearing about the Gilmour trade from Russ Peake at the tail end of a CFCN News telecast. Peake was wrapping up and said he had just been handed a a breaking news note, and read off the list of names adding "I hope this isn't someone's idea of a joke."

[looooob]

Originally Posted by JBR

Killer could have won the Conn Smythe in 1989. He was dominant in the Finals and I believe he was right up there with MacInnis and Vernon. He radiated intensity in that series, and was a monster in game 4.

my take on that season was that Joe Mullen was likely the regular season MVP, Chopper a good choice for playoff MVP but the overall 88-89 MVP was Gilmour- his arrival definitely was the missing piece of an already superb puzzle

[TheScorpion]

This is a pretty decent number. Killer obviously takes it but Talbot, Chiasson, and even Galiardi have all been positive presences on the team.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

This is a pretty decent number. Killer obviously takes it but Talbot, Chiasson, and even Galiardi have all been positive presences on the team.

Say what?

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Say what?

yeah he'd have had a hard time winning 36 or 38 I'd say

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Say what?

Maybe he means that TJ made it so obvious that we needed much more than adding a fringe winger to be competitive.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

These polls are become a "Locke Watch."

Which plug does Locke choose?

Just to mess with him and not let him be an outlier, one of these rounds, we should wait for him to vote and throw in a few votes for the same guy.

Ha, not so unique anymore.

[Reggie Dunlop]

All Killer and a lot of filler....

[TheScorpion]

I liked Galiardi for sentimental reasons.

Also excellent post, Reg.

[Bingo]

That trade went down when I was sick as a dog on the couch for two days.

My dad tried to explain it to me but it made so little sense that I thought I had dreamed it when I woke up again.