UPDATE: NHLPA votes for further negotiations on 24-team return to play format

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Freeway

Florida's propped up by an amazingly favourable lease with Broward County which guarantees revenue. I'm unsure how they'll be impacted by the loss of games/fans, though. It's definitely a big kick in the pants either way.

Badly I assume.

The word was the marching orders from ownership was for Tallon to cut 10 million from the payroll for next year.

I imagine the lack of any events, sports or not, is going to be a considerable impact for that franchise.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Where the heck would she go?

I don’t think you understand what happens when a girlfriend ‘leaves’ you.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Chances to salvage 2020 (for any NA pro league) are becoming more and more remote.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1255742105978392578

There was nothing in the article that leads to it being more remote. It literally uses the words COULD and MIGHT

Canceling seasons will not be easy but COULD very well be necessary, Dr. Anthony Fauci told the New York Times on Wednesday.

United States’s top infectious diseases expert, Fauci said there are leagues that MIGHT have to “bite the bullet” and cancel their 2020 seasons.

How is that any different then any discussion around this topic. Terrible clickbait title to a useless article that gives no new information

[Toonage]

I'm noticing a lot of sports media outlets and personalities inserting a heaping dose of their own opinion into their reporting. It gets repeated enough that you start thinking they have a weird agenda, one way or the other. For or against resumption. The article above feels like the reporter had one thing to say and the editor had another.

[Jason14h]

The NHL is aiming to open team practice facilities for small group workouts in the “mid-to-later portion of May,” per a league memo sent Wednesday.
This jives with an April 23 report from the New York Post that at least one NHL team had told its players to be prepared for informal workouts on or around May 15. Frank Seravalli of TSN.ca notes that any return to play -- whether at practice or for actual games -- would need to be approved by the NHL Players' Association. The joint NHL-NHLPA Return to Play committee has been meeting virtually in recent days to discuss such matters. A big issue is travel, as the U.S.-Canada border remains closed to non-essential business. Players from Europe could potentially be stranded until June.

As Per Rotoworld

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I'm noticing a lot of sports media outlets and personalities inserting a heaping dose of their own opinion into their reporting. It gets repeated enough that you start thinking they have a weird agenda, one way or the other. For or against resumption. The article above feels like the reporter had one thing to say and the editor had another.

It's in all forms of media now. Makes it harder to seek out fact based reporting on anything.

All the Covid-19 coverage is a tremendous example of this as people seek coverage that "aligns with their views" instead of allowing facts and data to inform their views.

[standinmotion]

On the other hand, NBA team execs and agents are calling the league to cancel the rest of the season: link. If the NBA cancels their season, it'll put a lot of pressures on the NHL to follow suit.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by standinmotion

On the other hand, NBA team execs and agents are calling the league to cancel the rest of the season: link. If the NBA cancels their season, it'll put a lot of pressures on the NHL to follow suit.

It would be a blessing for the NHL to go ahead actually. Bigger audience, new exposure to the game, no worries about schedule conflicts if fans can eventually attend by some miracle. Not having to compete with the NBA would be a positive.

[Toonage]

^ Not sharing arenas/dressing rooms also a plus (though it may have only been one or two buildings to start)

[transplant99]

So...they want to get the teams back together by May 15th, to start skating?

How are all the Euros going to get back by tomorrow to quarantine for 14 days in time for that date? (Not sure who stayed and who went back mind you)

How are the American players going to get across the border?

Seems a more than a little ambitious to have that date as anything more than a starting point.

[standinmotion]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It would be a blessing for the NHL to go ahead actually. Bigger audience, new exposure to the game, no worries about schedule conflicts if fans can eventually attend by some miracle. Not having to compete with the NBA would be a positive.

It is from the business perspective, but there will be a lot of political pressures. It is even harder for the NHL to resume because 1) we have a lot of international (European) players, whereas the NBA has only a handful and b) NBA teams have less players than NHL, hence less people to manage / isolate, and c) there are a lot more potential venues to host a basketball court, versus the ice rinks required for the NHL. The NBA has been mulling using Disney World as the "bubble city", but the NHL will need 4 rinks instead of single location. Given all these logistical challenges, there will be a lot of political questions / pressures for the NHL to just "drop it".

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by standinmotion

On the other hand, NBA team execs and agents are calling the league to cancel the rest of the season: link. If the NBA cancels their season, it'll put a lot of pressures on the NHL to follow suit.

The reality is that less people are required to work an NBA game. Less players, less equipment staff, less arena staff, etc. If they cancel it will be nearly impossible for the NHL to justify starting up again.

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by transplant99

So...they want to get the teams back together by May 15th, to start skating?

How are all the Euros going to get back by tomorrow to quarantine for 14 days in time for that date? (Not sure who stayed and who went back mind you)

How are the American players going to get across the border?

Seems a more than a little ambitious to have that date as anything more than a starting point.

These are just discussions about doing things, not really doing things. Click bait and all that. Lebrun’s article pretty well shot the whole thing down.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

I don’t think you understand what happens when a girlfriend ‘leaves’ you.

Freedom?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It would be a blessing for the NHL to go ahead actually. Bigger audience, new exposure to the game, no worries about schedule conflicts if fans can eventually attend by some miracle. Not having to compete with the NBA would be a positive.

You can certainly look at those as positives but you would have negative pressure impacting the NHL "brand" as well. You'll have a group of public officials, private individuals, health authorities and media that would nail the NHL for deciding to resume their schedule and put people at risk. Where the balancing point is between positive exposure and negative exposure is for risk analysts or someone to figure out.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

You can certainly look at those as positives but you would have negative pressure impacting the NHL "brand" as well. You'll have a group of public officials, private individuals, health authorities and media that would nail the NHL for deciding to resume their schedule and put people at risk. Where the balancing point is between positive exposure and negative exposure is for risk analysts or someone to figure out.

At this point the NHL is at risk of starting the process and having it cancelled part way through by public health/government officials.

IMO, it's the same tone deaf thinking that plagues the other league decision making.

If it wasn't for the NBA and the The Bay Area cancelling games, likely that the NHL would've been playing games through the middle of march.

Remember how absolutely insane the idea of playing in Saskatoon was?

The best thing Canada has going for it in terms of Covid is how early they cancelled major sporting events.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

... IMO, it's the same tone deaf thinking that plagues the other league decision making.



If it wasn't for the NBA and the The Bay Area cancelling games, likely that the NHL would've been playing games through the middle of march...

This is pretty conjectural. I mean, is there any doubt that the NBA would have continued operations had Rudy Gobert not tested positive for COVID 19 when he did? The reason they were first to suspend play was that their players were the first to test positive. This was part of the NHL decision to follow suit the very next day:

Originally Posted by The NHL

The NHL has been attempting to follow the mandates of health experts and local authorities, while preparing for any possible developments without taking any premature or unnecessary measures. However, following last night's news that an NBA player has tested positive for the coronavirus – and given that our leagues share so many facilities and locker rooms and it now seems likely that some member of the NHL community would test positive at some point – it is no longer appropriate to try to continue to play games at this time.

The NHL doesn't deserve criticism for being second-to-the-punch here anymore than the NBA deserves any added credit for suspending their League first, given the circumstances. Had a NHL player been the first athlete in the "Big Four" to test positive they would have been first to suspend their season, and the NBA would quickly have followed.

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[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by standinmotion

On the other hand, NBA team execs and agents are calling the league to cancel the rest of the season: link. If the NBA cancels their season, it'll put a lot of pressures on the NHL to follow suit.

Many NBA power players are talking about restarting. Here is the take from the guy with probably more stroke than anyone in the league:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ish-our-season

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Many NBA power players are talking about restarting. Here is the take from the guy with probably more stroke than anyone in the league:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ish-our-season

Makes sense to play Basketball in the summer.. It is in the summer Olympics.

There is nobody at all that thinks that ice hockey is a summer sport.

[tfi racing]

Nascar is restarting on May 17th, with no fans on the premises, limited race team personnel, and strict compartmentalization rules in place. Yes, it is a totally different sport with already pretty much fully contained drivers and pit road crew members, but many of the same concerns and protocols to deal with those concerns are similiar and apply to other sports as well. Here's a transcript of today's press conference, thought some here would find it worth a read.

https://www.jayski.com/2020/04/30/tr...urn-to-racing/