Covid Jersey Vote - Best #23 Flames History

[Bingo]

#1 - Turek (Riggin)
#2 - MacInnis (Commodore)
#3 - Phaneuf (Musil)
#4 - McCrimmon (Bouwmeester)
#5 - Giordano (Albelin)
#6 - Housley (Sarich)
#7 - Mullen (Brodie)
#8 - Risebrough (Bure)
#9 - McDonald (no vote)
#10 - Roberts (McGrattan)
#11 - Backlund (Yelle)
#12 - Iginla (Loob)
#13 - Gaudreau (Titov/Cammalleri)
#14 - Fleury (Nilsson)
#15 - McCarthy (Simon)
#16 - Chouinard (Stillman)
#17 - Hrdina (Bourque)
#18 - Stajan (Lombardi)
#19 - Tkachuk (Hunter)
#20 - Suter (Huselius)
#21 - Ference (Jokinen)
#22 - Conroy (Langkow)

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Bingo

#1 - Turek (Riggin)
#2 - MacInnis (Commodore)
#3 - Phaneuf (Musil)
#4 - McCrimmon (Bouwmeester)
#5 - Giordano (Albelin)
#6 - Housley (Sarich)
#7 - Mullen (Brodie)
#8 - Risebrough (Bure)
#9 - McDonald (no vote)
#10 - Roberts (McGrattan)
#11 - Backlund (Yelle)
#12 - Iginla (Loob)
#13 - Gaudreau (Titov/Cammalleri)
#14 - Fleury (Nilsson)
#15 - McCarthy (Simon)
#16 - Chouinard (Stillman)
#17 - Hrdina (Bourque)
#18 - Stajan (Lombardi)
#19 - Tkachuk (Hunter)
#20 - Suter (Huselius)
#21 - Ference (Jokinen)
#22 - Conroy (Langkow)

FIRST
Roberts Conroy Iginla
Gaudreau Chouinard Mullen
Tkachuk Backlund Fleury
Hrdina Stajan Lanny
(Riser, McCarthy)

MacInnis Gio
Suter Sarge
Housley Phaneuf
(Ference)

Turek
- ok the centers are starting- although this group will still not closely resemble what is to come

SECOND
Huselius Nilsson Loob
Cam/Titov Langkow Bourque
Stillman Jokinen Bure
Lombardi Yelle Hunter
(BIGERN, Simon)

Brodie Musil
Bouw Sarich
Albelein Commodore



Riggin
-forwards actually are starting to come together- these lines will change quite a bit as we recreate some natural chemistries

[dissentowner]

Gelinas scored some huge goals for this franchise but this is Sean Monahan.

[looooob]

Hardest vote for me yet


first off- Gelinas- the limited interactions that I, or my family, have had with this man and his family suggest he is a first class dude. Had arguably one of the most memorable and important 2 month stretches of any Flames player. I will cherish the memories he provided this city forever. but his tenure was too short for 23- he would have won 6 or 7 numbers already in my mind but not this one


I have given the next 2 players alot of thought . Both former first rounders who stepped right in as teenagers into the toughest league in the world. Both have their drawbacks- Reinhart a bit of a 'rover' more than a defenceman, Monahan is boring and 'not a first line center' to many


one is 7th all time in assists for the Flames, the other 7th all time in goals- both ahead of some VERY impressive players


these are both top 20 flames, IMO. Monaham will both benefit and lose out due to recency bias I think, but he BARELY gets my vote- again I realize my old guy membership may be at risk here- but his story isn't finished and his scoring numbers through 7 years are very high class for this organization


regarding Reinhart- it is a pity that they were never really all healthy at the same time but from 85-88 the Flames had 3 dynamic dmen in their early prime all home grown, the likes of which have very rarely been matched in MacInnis, Suter, Reinhart (ok sure 70s habs or something) but in recent years- Nashville comes to mind, the Sens of a certain era etc

[devo22]

great options here. Reinhart was a great player for a long time, Gelinas provided some of the greatest moments in the playoffs. But in the end, it has to be Mony.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by looooob

I have given the next 2 players alot of thought . Both former first rounders who stepped right in as teenagers into the toughest league in the world. Both have their drawbacks- Reinhart a bit of a 'rover' more than a defenceman, Monahan is boring and 'not a first line center' to many


one is 7th all time in assists for the Flames, the other 7th all time in goals- both ahead of some VERY impressive players


these are both top 20 flames, IMO. Monaham will both benefit and lose out due to recency bias I think, but he BARELY gets my vote- again I realize my old guy membership may be at risk here- but his story isn't finished and his scoring numbers through 7 years are very high class for this organization


regarding Reinhart- it is a pity that they were never really all healthy at the same time but from 85-88 the Flames had 3 dynamic dmen in their early prime all home grown, the likes of which have very rarely been matched in MacInnis, Suter, Reinhart (ok sure 70s habs or something) but in recent years- Nashville comes to mind, the Sens of a certain era etc

It's a hard call.

They were similar in a way too. Both very productive but over shadowed and not "the guy" to carry the team. Reinhart was a great young defenseman but got passed by MacInnis and Suter on the roster when they flourished. Monahan puts pucks in the net, but doesn't drive a line or carry the team all that much.

I'm going Monahan too as I'm trying to break every tie with the old guy!

[The Familia]

Went Gelinas. No offence to Mony, but 15 years from now I will always remember Gelinas and what he did for this team. Unless Monahan leads this team to any semblance of playoff success, he will fade away into the good but not great category. Gelinas, while not putting up as many points or played as long in Calgary, has done more for the team than Mony has done in my opinion.

For me, I have very little attachment to anyone on the current roster. While there is some good talent, I’m not seeing that heart and soul. Monahan is the perfect example of a guy who puts up some good stats (not spectacular) but doesn’t fuel or put the team on his back.

[Puppet Guy]

Went with Monahan, but it was a close call with Reinhart - without his back issues the conversation would change from "what could've been" to "was he a Hall of Famer?".

[nieuwy-89]

I’m a big Monahan fan. But I’m still not over the fact that this core collapsed and heeled to the Avalanche last year, when they had such a great shot at a deep playoff run. Hopefully Mony will prove himself in the playoffs in due course.

For this one I’m going with proven playoff success and the great memories of 2004. The Eliminator.

[Steve Bozek]

Reinhart for me. By far the most skilled player of the group - played defense and centre. Even though his back problems plagued him throughout his career, he was still a dominant player, and his performance went up several notches in playoffs. Giving him to Vancouver was a big factor in the Canucks almost derailing the Flames’ Stanley Cup.

[TheChief]

As far as who is the most legendary #23, I think this is no question the eliminator. Yeah Sean is (somewhat?)young and leads the flames in a category with an *** (see OT winners). But he is a one dimensional player and not a very good one this recent season at that.



I think its between Gelinas and Reinhart. You can see the demographic of posters voting in this poll for sure.



In 5 years maybe this poll would go differently or maybe not!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I can't allow recency bias to cloud my judgement. Even though I love Monahan and Gelinas, they simply don't compare to Reinhart. Great defenseman who played for almost the entire 80s for the Flames. Good at both ends of the ice, and could play multiple positions.

But I tell ya, Gelinas' series winning goals in '04 really made me want to pick him. I know that's stupid, but they were such big, big moments in Flames history.

[troutman]

Sean may surpass Paul one day, but not this day.

[SportsJunky]

I loved Reinhart when I was a kid. Injuries derailed what could have been a HOF career. I don’t think he even hit the 500 game mark. *edit- he actually played over 600 games*.Special player. Monahan, too. Very talented.

It’s funny, both Monahan and Reinhart are perceived as laid back guys with little fire in their bellies. That tag is unfair to both, I think. Neither one was going to play with much sandpaper in their games. Just not the way they are built probably. I don’t question their desire to win though.

My choice is Monahan. I think he has been very consistent for Calgary. If he wants to stick around I think he could be one of the all-timers, if he isn’t already.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

There's no way I can watch Monahan play this past season and tell myself he's a better player than Reinart was.

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by TheChief

As far as who is the most legendary #23, I think this is no question the eliminator. Yeah Sean is (somewhat?)young and leads the flames in a category with an *** (see OT winners). But he is a one dimensional player and not a very good one this recent season at that.



I think its between Gelinas and Reinhart. You can see the demographic of posters voting in this poll for sure.



In 5 years maybe this poll would go differently or maybe not!

I think you may be right, but recency bias might be why Monahan is the "Best Flames Player to wear #23".

We haven't had a true number 1 center in a long long time and Mony (although he disappears at times) has provided this team with stability down the middle. Also it is hard to ignore his ability to put up 25+ goals every season.

[Patek23]

Monahan has the longevity and points total. But stats are meaningless unless there was something accomplished. Gelinas scored 4 straight ( that’s not a typo ) series clinching goals. No other player on this list even sniffs the impact that those goals had on the team and this city. Gelinas wins hands down. Call me when Monahan helps this team accomplish anything more then a early 1st or 2nd round drop out.

[Scroopy Noopers]

I opened this thread thinking it would be easy. It wasn’t.

[calgaryred]

Gelinas was key in the 2004 playoffs, Reinhart was a huge part of the flames in the 80s minus the cup year. Still Monahan is at least in the regular season the better player. I'm going with Sean Monahan

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[looooob]

with the 3 big names getting the attention, thought it was worth discussing a few lesser lights

Eric Nystrom- He's made the team!
Clarke Wilm- never a fan really but top 50 all time in games played for the flaming C, he made the best of what he had

Sheldon Kennedy- a very important Calgarian, admittedly not directly related to his tenure as a Flame, although he was awesome for me in NHL 95