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			You may have to be a specific type of investor for this to affect any of your holdings....but worth considering.  
 
The 2 trillion stimulus package in the US specifies that any company that receives aid cannot pay out dividends until the loans are paid back.  
 
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			04-05-2020, 04:22 PM
			
			
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				The other possibility is he's preparing to buy one of the airlines, either in full or in a huge preferred + warrants deal. When they bought the railway BNSF they had positions in the other railroads at the time, which they sold. 
			
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I'm coming around to this way of thinking...
 
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				You may have to be a specific type of investor for this to affect any of your holdings....but worth considering.  
 
The 2 trillion stimulus package in the US specifies that any company that receives aid cannot pay out dividends until the loans are paid back.  
 
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That's what they did in 2008-09. The banks were back making a lot of cash and dividends had to be approved before they could be issued. I think that the BAC dividend was something $0.01/quarter when I bought shares! Not exactly a payout to write home about at the time!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2020, 02:44 PM
			
			
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			So do we buy O&G before Thursday? 
Or is this gonna continue for some time yet?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2020, 03:16 PM
			
			
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				So do we buy O&G before Thursday? 
Or is this gonna continue for some time yet? 
			
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I bet against the market last Friday (HOD). I just don't see them making an agreement by end of week. Still trying to figure out when I should sell...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2020, 03:35 PM
			
			
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			TSX up 5% 
S&P 500 up 7% 
 
Are people aware that there is a worldwide pandemic going on right now? o_O
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2020, 03:39 PM
			
			
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				TSX up 5% 
S&P 500 up 7% 
 
Are people aware that there is a worldwide pandemic going on right now? o_O 
			
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Market is forward looking. The market always hits bottom well before the economy. This could also just be a dead cat bounce...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2020, 04:25 PM
			
			
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			I think once economic data comes out people will get a better sense of where we are. What I am most interested in is to see Q2 economic data as that is where we are really going to get a sense of how much impact this thing is going to have and how big of a mountain we are going to climb.  
 
I am personally surprised to see how much CAD O&G has rallied over the past week and a half.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2020, 04:28 PM
			
			
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			The rise today was totally detached from the price of oil as well, which is a little curious.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-06-2020, 05:43 PM
			
			
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			I think a lot of it was short covering. Almost like panic buying at the end of the day.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2020, 05:46 PM
			
			
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				I think a lot of it was short covering. Almost like panic buying at the end of the day. 
			
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Yeah, there will be a bunch of ups and downs in the coming months, imo. Everyone's trying to short, thinking it's the lowest it can be, but I can see much worse when the death tolls truly start hitting the American public.
 
I believe most governments are trying (rightfully) to "let 'em down easy" with their citizens that this actually is far, far from over and that we may into half a year of social distancing and no public gatherings, if not more.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2020, 07:02 PM
			
			
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			How did Boeing jump by 17% today? What changed over the weekend? Max8s ok to fly all of a sudden?? 
 
Dow up 7.5% in one day. Crazy. Not that I’m complaining but wow. Should have bought!!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2020, 08:00 PM
			
			
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				How did Boeing jump by 17% today? What changed over the weekend? Max8s ok to fly all of a sudden?? 
 
Dow up 7.5% in one day. Crazy. Not that I’m complaining but wow. Should have bought!! 
			
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It's still over sold compared to its sector. It was down about 65% whereas the others are down about 30%. It was definitely drug higher by the s&p over all too. Maybe on an up day like this buyers look to the biggest laggards for a bit of alpha in a large cap.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2020, 08:51 PM
			
			
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				How did Boeing jump by 17% today? What changed over the weekend? Max8s ok to fly all of a sudden?? 
 
Dow up 7.5% in one day. Crazy. Not that I’m complaining but wow. Should have bought!! 
			
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Just stick to your plans.  FOMO is a great way to lose money.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-08-2020, 01:10 AM
			
			
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			FOMO kicked in hard today when the markets were up 4%, and then work happened so didn't do anything.  
 
Saw the close and the FOMO went away.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-09-2020, 08:59 AM
			
			
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			buying or selling oil before the big meeting today?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-09-2020, 09:23 AM
			
			
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			April 3 the oil services co's looked good. Today I'll sell the ones I bought. Actually just sold them. I have no idea what's going on or why, but it might be the old saying, buy the rumor sell the news playing out.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-09-2020, 09:38 AM
			
			
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			Had 3 positions from the beginning of the week. just sold 1, we'll see what happens.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-09-2020, 09:49 AM
			
			
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			I think no matter what happens that was the right move for me at least. I just do what others are thinking. That takes the guess work out of it. I don't want to be at the mercy of Putin's whim.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-09-2020, 10:31 PM
			
			
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			I was going to create a thread, but thought I'd just keep it here, but what does everyone think of the financial ramifications beyond just stocks for Canada?  For me, I think Canada has a huge amount of money to make up in quick order so I think there will be a few changes over the next few years. 
1) Increased immigration to bring in more contributors to the tax pool 
2) Housing supply opening up, so I think housing prices will be stable 
 
 
 
I'm in the process of acquiring my first mortgage in Toronto, and really weighing my options hard for term and fixed/variable.  I can't see the bond market drastically improving so fixed should go up (according to the economics I know), and I can't see banks passing on BOC savings to customers as they need to keep their margins high, so can't see that going down much either.  I don't know though, so I'm wondering what others feel here?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-09-2020, 11:28 PM
			
			
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				I was going to create a thread, but thought I'd just keep it here, but what does everyone think of the financial ramifications beyond just stocks for Canada?  For me, I think Canada has a huge amount of money to make up in quick order so I think there will be a few changes over the next few years. 
1) Increased immigration to bring in more contributors to the tax pool 
2) Housing supply opening up, so I think housing prices will be stable 
 
 
 
I'm in the process of acquiring my first mortgage in Toronto, and really weighing my options hard for term and fixed/variable.  I can't see the bond market drastically improving so fixed should go up (according to the economics I know), and I can't see banks passing on BOC savings to customers as they need to keep their margins high, so can't see that going down much either.  I don't know though, so I'm wondering what others feel here? 
			
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I can't imagine buying into the Toronto/Vancouver housing markets right now
 
Not saying I know it's the wrong decision - but those prices are hard to explain
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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